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05-05-2021 01:02 PM
@fthunt Not many people wear watches anymore. They use their phone to get the time.
05-05-2021 05:52 PM
@Shanus wrote:DH stopped wearing suits or sportcoats to the office years ago. It seems a shirt w/ sleeves rolled up and sometimes a tie is more than acceptable.
It used to be that professional offices had dress codes. He said many years ago in NY, men used to wear suits, dressy over coats, etc. Those days are gone. DH's clients feel more comfortable and relaxed coming to their tax appts. and they've told him he seems more approachable when not "suited up".
The dress code has definitely been more relaxed and I am all for it. I thought Jamie Dimon was much more casual than I have ever seen in a bank or professional workplace. I have seen his type of attire with film, music and construction industry workers.
05-05-2021 06:04 PM
@skatting44 wrote:Another elite , telling everyone what they should or need to do
@skatting44 Your comment cracks me up. For those who work at J.P. Morgan Chase Bank, he is THE boss. Bosses do tell their employees what they can and can't wear.
To be clear, he wasn't discussing fashion, he was just advocating for the end of work from home for people who want a career track. He also makes that decision for J.P. Morgan Chase Bank employees. He stated he expects normal office attendance by September/October, no doubt taking into account that summer attendance is aways spotty.
I don't work for him, so he can't tell me when to go to the office or what to wear to work. In my profession (law), there have been expectations, and what he is wearing would have been too casual pre-pandemic for every day. Particularly for our banking clients/partners. Maybe OK for an odd day here and there with no clients.
So I was interested in what he was wearing, what message he is sending with his clothes, since he was in a very visible forum, and what other people are experiencing. Maybe standards ARE relaxing even more.
Would love to hear from those who work, what is your experience?
05-05-2021 06:17 PM - edited 05-05-2021 06:21 PM
@NYCLatinaMe wrote:
@skatting44 wrote:Another elite , telling everyone what they should or need to do
@skatting44 Your comment cracks me up. For those who work at J.P. Morgan Chase Bank, he is THE boss. Bosses do tell their employees what they can and can't wear.
To be clear, he wasn't discussing fashion, he was just advocating for the end of work from home for people who want a career track. He also makes that decision for J.P. Morgan Chase Bank employees. He stated he expects normal office attendance by September/October, no doubt taking into account that summer attendance is aways spotty.
I don't work for him, so he can't tell me when to go to the office or what to wear to work. In my profession (law), there have been expectations, and what he is wearing would have been too casual pre-pandemic for every day. Particularly for our banking clients/partners. Maybe OK for an odd day here and there with no clients.
So I was interested in what he was wearing, what message he is sending with his clothes, since he was in a very visible forum, and what other people are experiencing. Maybe standards ARE relaxing even more.
Would love to hear from those who work, what is your experience?
I'm no longer working, but I spent the bulk of my career in finance for a Fortune 100 pharma company, and then finished up with a stint in wealth/institutional investment management.
Finance is a very conservative area, and for years I wore skirted suits, silk blouses, pumps, hose, statement jewelry - the whole nine yards. But as far back as 25 years ago, that began to change. Slowly, but it changed. To the point where when I went into NYC on business, if I wore a suit I'd be the only one in the room wearing one. I was so relieved to stop running thru airports in heels and a skirt! But man, did I have a LOT of money invested in that wardrobe!
I have a friend who's a senior VP in investment banking. When he goes to the office, it's in NYC. The last time I saw him, he said he'd given away all but 3 or 4 of his suits. Daily dress when seeing clients is usually golf clothes (polo and chinos) with a blazer.
05-05-2021 06:18 PM
@NYCLatinaMe wrote:
@Shanus wrote:DH stopped wearing suits or sportcoats to the office years ago. It seems a shirt w/ sleeves rolled up and sometimes a tie is more than acceptable.
It used to be that professional offices had dress codes. He said many years ago in NY, men used to wear suits, dressy over coats, etc. Those days are gone. DH's clients feel more comfortable and relaxed coming to their tax appts. and they've told him he seems more approachable when not "suited up".
The dress code has definitely been more relaxed and I am all for it. I thought Jamie Dimon was much more casual than I have ever seen in a bank or professional workplace. I have seen his type of attire with film, music and construction industry workers.
@NYCLatinaMe I assume he can wear whatever he wants. There are people at the "top" who sometimes have the privilege of using their clothing as a statement.
05-05-2021 07:56 PM
05-05-2021 08:02 PM
Here, bank officers are in suits. The tellers are wearing more tops with sweaters in place of suits.
05-05-2021 08:46 PM
One of my neighbors works at a Chase bank. I see here coming and going. She wears the same thing almost every time I see her...black pants and a black blazer. It's like a uniform.
05-06-2021 12:27 PM
@Katcat1 wrote:It could be that his office is casual attire unless a client is coming in. I believe that when you treat employees with some perks (casual dressing) they will produce more work for you. I use to work in law offices and casual dressing was always acceptable.
@Katcat1 He's a CEO. There is always "clients" coming in. And he is at a media event, where people usually wear their best.
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