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05-09-2021 08:19 PM - edited 05-09-2021 08:24 PM
@Johnnyeager wrote:The hyper-privileged areas of Manhattan have never followed the rules.
I don't live in the Hyper-privileged areas of Manhatten and I was fully vaccinated in Feb. My 25ish nephew lives in midtown on the east side (Not hyper-priviledged) and walked into the pharmacy on his block and got his vaccination. Every single person I know who wants a vaccination has been able to get the vaccine no matter which borough. My nephew told me there were lines to get into some restaurants on 3rd Av and Lexington Ave around dinner time. I suppose there were no pre-dinner early bird specials where you were, when you were there. Uptown and downtown, it was a different story.
05-09-2021 08:39 PM - edited 05-09-2021 08:42 PM
@chrystaltree wrote:Cities????? Everyone in the country should get vaccinated to defeat the virus and get back to normal.
@chrystaltree FWIW, everyone in the WORLD will need to get vaccinated & booster shots to defeat CONTAIN this virus & all of the variants that keeps cropping up.
MY PERSONAL OPINIOIN......
We will NEVER get back to "normal" which I assume you mean no more mask wearing, social distancing & washing of hands (which should have been done prior to the pandemic). At least NOT in MY lifetime at 70 yrs young.
This is the NEW normal.
"Never argue with a fool. Onlookers may not be able to tell the difference."
05-09-2021 10:42 PM
@Mz iMac wrote:
@chrystaltree wrote:Cities????? Everyone in the country should get vaccinated to defeat the virus and get back to normal.
@chrystaltree FWIW, everyone in the WORLD will need to get vaccinated & booster shots to
defeatCONTAIN this virus & all of the variants that keeps cropping up.
MY PERSONAL OPINIOIN......
We will NEVER get back to "normal" which I assume you mean no more mask wearing, social distancing & washing of hands
(which should have been done prior to the pandemic). At least NOT in MY lifetime at 70 yrs young.
This is the NEW normal.
I disagree. I think the new normal is going to be yearly Covid shots for quite some time. Masks will eventually become less ubiquitous unless you are sick or around a vulnerable person, and so will more extreme social distancing.
I hope good hygiene is the new normal forever, though. And I would love it if people with colds (or flu or Covid) would always wear masks when they're not at home, and stay home and work from home if they can.
At a certain point, with free vaccines readily available, the people who are not vaccinated and who are out walking around in public will be people who have consciously chosen to put their bodies at risk from the disease. Their body their choice. Thankfully their choice can't hurt me.
05-09-2021 11:21 PM
@Porcelain wrote:
@Mz iMac wrote:
@chrystaltree wrote:Cities????? Everyone in the country should get vaccinated to defeat the virus and get back to normal.
@chrystaltree FWIW, everyone in the WORLD will need to get vaccinated & booster shots to
defeatCONTAIN this virus & all of the variants that keeps cropping up.
MY PERSONAL OPINIOIN......
We will NEVER get back to "normal" which I assume you mean no more mask wearing, social distancing & washing of hands
(which should have been done prior to the pandemic). At least NOT in MY lifetime at 70 yrs young.
This is the NEW normal.
I disagree. I think the new normal is going to be yearly Covid shots for quite some time. Masks will eventually become less ubiquitous unless you are sick or around a vulnerable person, and so will more extreme social distancing.
I hope good hygiene is the new normal forever, though. And I would love it if people with colds (or flu or Covid) would always wear masks when they're not at home, and stay home and work from home if they can.
At a certain point, with free vaccines readily available, the people who are not vaccinated and who are out walking around in public will be people who have consciously chosen to put their bodies at risk from the disease. Their body their choice. Thankfully their choice can't hurt me.
This is and has been the norm in Japan. I saw it when I taught there when I was young. It took a while to get used to, but I learned people were doing it to protect others, not themselves. Even young students in my basic classes wore them sometimes. IIRC they were always white.
Question about NYC. I've heard conflicting opinions from those who live there. My children have friends who have apartments there. One girl said it's safe to go to the Times Square area; another says she won't go out by herself during the day or night. What do those of you who live there or go there think?
05-09-2021 11:50 PM
We're having a lull in infections, but too many of those vaccinated are feeling safe when none of the vaccines are 100% effective.
New variants are spreading, and there is no way to know if the vaccines will protect against all new variants.
It's become a risk/benefit situation. People are whining about restrictions and the economy is a concern. So, it's a gamble that the vaccines will continue to be effective.
I, for one, will continue to be cautious, stay out of crowds, planes, foreign countries and wear a mask.
05-10-2021 05:37 AM
IMO crime is a bigger problem on the streets than it was before. Lots of people are working remotely. Lots of people looking to move out of the city.
05-10-2021 08:26 AM
The things that will change IMO are yearly boosters and (hopefully) better hygiene. Masks aren't being used as often in my area, only where it's required. Otherwise, no one wears them. Everyone still does social distance, though. BTW, it's always been the case here to wear masks only if one can't social distance. (Unless some place requires it, of couse. That's up to the business owner.)I think people have forgotten that point.
Getting a yearly booster doesn't bother me. It would be no worse than having my annual flu shot, which I've done for years.
05-10-2021 09:07 AM
@Deree wrote:
@Johnnyeager wrote:As with almost everything, it's easy to get vaccinated in New York City if you're rich or famous or preferably both.
It is awkward, cumbersome and excessively bureaucratic,confusing and frustrating still for an average, regular, nonfamous, not rich resident.
@Johnnyeager WADR.... I don't know what city you're in, but second story on the 5 p.m. news showed video of packed restaurants on the UWS today. Also, getting vaxed in the city may have been confusing and frustrating at the outset but today? It's quite easy because there is an abundance of vaccine and just about anyone can simply walk in to a vax site without an appointment.
@Deree I agree it's quite easy to get vaccinated in NYC & in the beginning demand was greater than supply. The same here in NJ but now there is no issue. NY & NJ actually have stockpiles and vaccines are being diverted by the US Govt from states that don't need vaccine to places where demand is still high.
05-10-2021 09:11 AM
@reiki604 wrote:
@Johnnyeager wrote:The hyper-privileged areas of Manhattan have never followed the rules.
I don't live in the Hyper-privileged areas of Manhatten and I was fully vaccinated in Feb. My 25ish nephew lives in midtown on the east side (Not hyper-priviledged) and walked into the pharmacy on his block and got his vaccination. Every single person I know who wants a vaccination has been able to get the vaccine no matter which borough. My nephew told me there were lines to get into some restaurants on 3rd Av and Lexington Ave around dinner time. I suppose there were no pre-dinner early bird specials where you were, when you were there. Uptown and downtown, it was a different story.
@reiki604 all of my friends and family living in NY were vaccinated earlier than I was here in NJ and none live upper east side. Churches, pharmacies, clubs, pop ups and mega sites gave out vaccine. There were lines early on but everyone who wanted a vaccine just had to look for it or maybe travel out of their neighborhood. It was available
05-10-2021 09:17 AM
Now things are looking better re the pandemic but @ holiday time, the picture may look different. We had no flu this year to speak of & coronavirus isn't going away or it may mutate.....masks during influenza season may become the new norm
crime wise NYC is having problems plus an increase in homelessness. Many of the stores have gone out of business in some areas and some are boarded up due to damage from protests ....in some neighborhoods
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