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I'm skeptical about the Orlando police story that they got to the Pulse Nightclub a little after 2 a.m. and ALL the shooting from the suspect took place in that time period.

 

They said after it became a "hostage situation" for the next THREE HOURS, there was NO shooting by the suspect while he was holed up in the bathrooms.  I heard interviews with some of the victims who were in the bathrooms.  One said that the shooter put his gun over the top of the closed bathroom stall and shot into the victims huddled there.  Other victims told similar stories of shooting taking place in the bathrooms.

 

Why didn't the SWAT team go back there and get the perpetrator.  I can't believe that they were "talking to him" for three hours and that there was NO shooting during that time.  That's just not true!!!  I think the police were afraid that there were more shooters and that they had a bomb.  Why do they have to lie about the situation!!!

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Wouldn't the FBI investigation uncover any inconsistencies in the police report?

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With all due respect @fortune I don't think it's fair to say people are lying since the investigation isn't complete and we the public don't know all the facts yet. Imho

 

 

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@fortune wrote:

I'm skeptical about the Orlando police story that they got to the Pulse Nightclub a little after 2 a.m. and ALL the shooting from the suspect took place in that time period.

 

They said after it became a "hostage situation" for the next THREE HOURS, there was NO shooting by the suspect while he was holed up in the bathrooms.  I heard interviews with some of the victims who were in the bathrooms.  One said that the shooter put his gun over the top of the closed bathroom stall and shot into the victims huddled there.  Other victims told similar stories of shooting taking place in the bathrooms.

 

Why didn't the SWAT team go back there and get the perpetrator.  I can't believe that they were "talking to him" for three hours and that there was NO shooting during that time.  That's just not true!!!  I think the police were afraid that there were more shooters and that they had a bomb.  Why do they have to lie about the situation!!!


@fortune

 

When the story broke, there was a lot of conflicting information from news sources, bystanders, etc etc .... even the witnesses had conflicting stories.  It's also possible that second hand information passed on was misunderstood, or incorrect.  

 

Since this is a Terror Attack Investigation being headed up by the FBI, and they have video from inside the nightclub, why not wait until the investigation is complete?     For anyone to assume that the Orlando police are lying is --- NO pun intended --- jumping the gun.

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Re: Three Hours!!!!!

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@fortune, I agree with you. The day after the shooting, I saw an interview with one of the family members. She said she was there after receiving a text, and was surprised they were waiting so long, 3 hrs.?, before going in to help the victims. She was very upset. Later, someone on the police force, can't remember who, was asked why they waited, and this person said they had to be sure of what was going on and were assessing the situation. I respect that. Since that time, I've heard conflicting stories. IMO, at this point,  I do believe there was a delay going in, I'm just not sure how long. 

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@fortune  DH says the same thing you do, with a lot of yelling and swearing.  He always thinks swat doesn't act quick enough, starting with Columbine.  

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This is a perfect example of jumping to conclusions.  Why not wait for the full report to come out?  Maybe some of your questions will be answered by that.  


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@Peaches McPhee wrote:

This is a perfect example of jumping to conclusions.  Why not wait for the full report to come out?  Maybe some of your questions will be answered by that.  


I agree.  I always wait to make my judgment until after the news has stopped making things up.  Remember when they say "it's been reported" they are usually speculating.  News people are not journalists anymore.  They are news readers and they have to make stuff up to fill up the hour.  

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.......yeah, the seconding guessing and finger pointing will go on for months.  But I wasn't there and for that, I am very thankful.  I have no doubt that the authorities did what the thought was appropriate at the time.  And since, as far as I know, they weren't equipped with crystal balls.  That's enough for me.

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