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@comedy clubber wrote:

EXERCISE is important, and shopping carts are very good at supporting most frames and disabilities.  I understand that some people may need the wheelchair cart, but in my experience that has not been the case as they check out and then scurry unaided to their cars.


@comedy clubber   Okay.  This sort of thinking must be the reason why I have to deal with rude comments.

 

There are many reasons why people use the motorized carts.  For me, it is orthostatic intolerance.  If I stand for too long, my blood pressure drops.  I'm sure there are plenty of other illnesses you know little about.  Maybe you should educate yourself before you make proclamations regarding the use of these carts.



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@mistriTsquirrel wrote:

@mimomof4 wrote:

I shop at Meijer frequently.  Although I don't want to generalize people but those people riding in the carts act as if they own the store and the aisles.  They constantly zoom out in from of me all the time and block the aisles.  Never once have I heard a sorry or do they respond when you say excuse me.

 

 


@mimomof4  I am one of those people riding in the carts. 

No matter how many times I say excuse me, people just stand there with their faces buried in their phones, carts in middle of aisle.  And since I am using a big, bulky cart, there is no way to get around them other than backing up and going the opposite way, which is also impossible if anyone is behind you.

It has become such a problem that I have started going to the store at 3 am to get my groceries.

Sorry you've had to deal with rude people too, but try using a motorized cart and your frustration level will go up tenfold, I promise you.

 


@mistriTsquirrel My father walks with a cane and I was out and about this him this past week.  He does ride in a cart when he is in the store.  I do try to look out for those riding in carts and try to get out of their way if I can see they are trying to look for something.  This weekend I was pleasantly surprised when someone did say excuse me even though I was trying to get out of her way.

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I have many friends who are lawyers, in many states.  All of them said to me, their store and their equipment.  Is there a record of maintenance on the chairs? Is there a checkout system in place?  Does any store employee monitor the people using the carts , by asking if the person is alone? needs help?  reaching shelf items can tip the carts, so is that monitored?  They have lots of liability, their facility and their equipment.  Even a friend who owns a small boutique shop shuddered when she heard my story.  She repeated, their facility, their equipment.  They are just a business that WANTS customers to think that they  care by making donations or sponsoring events.  Bottom line is that they DON'T CARE about me, you, or the lamp post.  As long as they can get away with honest people like myself doing the right thing, seeking treatment  without threats and not hauling them into court, they will get away with their unconscionable behaviors and carelessness.

I think it is so sad that so many of you defend them and, your words not mine, some jerky or ignorant people who ride on these dangerous, in the wrong hands, wheelchair carts.  By the way, I have had 23 knee surgeries on my right knee, including two knee replacements of that knee after a serious childhood injury.  I used a cart one time and decided that I would find another way to navigate a grocery store.  A friend whose father died as a result of Parkinson's Disease said she, being able bodied, tried a cart to see if she should put her dad in one.  Scared off by the way the cart worked, she just kept him next to her with a walker.  I am not ignorant about disabilities, I just see way too many "handicapped " people running or walking rapidly from their "handicapped" parking spaces.  Getting those permits and using the wheelchair carts are way too easy.

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@comedy clubber wrote:

I have many friends who are lawyers, in many states.  All of them said to me, their store and their equipment.  Is there a record of maintenance on the chairs? Is there a checkout system in place?  Does any store employee monitor the people using the carts , by asking if the person is alone? needs help?  reaching shelf items can tip the carts, so is that monitored?  They have lots of liability, their facility and their equipment.  Even a friend who owns a small boutique shop shuddered when she heard my story.  She repeated, their facility, their equipment.  They are just a business that WANTS customers to think that they  care by making donations or sponsoring events.  Bottom line is that they DON'T CARE about me, you, or the lamp post.  As long as they can get away with honest people like myself doing the right thing, seeking treatment  without threats and not hauling them into court, they will get away with their unconscionable behaviors and carelessness.

I think it is so sad that so many of you defend them and, your words not mine, some jerky or ignorant people who ride on these dangerous, in the wrong hands, wheelchair carts.  By the way, I have had 23 knee surgeries on my right knee, including two knee replacements of that knee after a serious childhood injury.  I used a cart one time and decided that I would find another way to navigate a grocery store.  A friend whose father died as a result of Parkinson's Disease said she, being able bodied, tried a cart to see if she should put her dad in one.  Scared off by the way the cart worked, she just kept him next to her with a walker.  I am not ignorant about disabilities, I just see way too many "handicapped " people running or walking rapidly from their "handicapped" parking spaces.  Getting those permits and using the wheelchair carts are way too easy.


Why is "not hauling them into court the right thing"?  Why not hire your "friends who are lawyers" to sue for 'pain and suffering'?   

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@comedy clubber wrote:

I have many friends who are lawyers, in many states.  All of them said to me, their store and their equipment.  Is there a record of maintenance on the chairs? Is there a checkout system in place?  Does any store employee monitor the people using the carts , by asking if the person is alone? needs help?  reaching shelf items can tip the carts, so is that monitored?  They have lots of liability, their facility and their equipment.  Even a friend who owns a small boutique shop shuddered when she heard my story.  She repeated, their facility, their equipment.  They are just a business that WANTS customers to think that they  care by making donations or sponsoring events.  Bottom line is that they DON'T CARE about me, you, or the lamp post.  As long as they can get away with honest people like myself doing the right thing, seeking treatment  without threats and not hauling them into court, they will get away with their unconscionable behaviors and carelessness.

I think it is so sad that so many of you defend them and, your words not mine, some jerky or ignorant people who ride on these dangerous, in the wrong hands, wheelchair carts.  By the way, I have had 23 knee surgeries on my right knee, including two knee replacements of that knee after a serious childhood injury.  I used a cart one time and decided that I would find another way to navigate a grocery store.  A friend whose father died as a result of Parkinson's Disease said she, being able bodied, tried a cart to see if she should put her dad in one.  Scared off by the way the cart worked, she just kept him next to her with a walker.  I am not ignorant about disabilities, I just see way too many "handicapped " people running or walking rapidly from their "handicapped" parking spaces.  Getting those permits and using the wheelchair carts are way too easy.


@comedy clubber   Okay.  So--according to you--I should just tough it out, and when my blood pressure drops, I should either lie down in the aisle or pass out there.  Because people's opinions and random temporary misfortune are more important than me being able to get groceries. 🙄

 

And you are right; companies do not care about people.  Maybe you should come to terms with that truth, which most people here have known for decades.  That's life.

 

Would you appreciate it if someone monitored your shopping cart usage while you are in the store?  Because I was hit pretty hard by a regular shopping cart years ago.  A kid drove the thing full-force into my leg while I was talking to someone at the customer service desk.  When I turned to look who did it, I saw it was a kid.  So I said nothing.  I tried to continue my conversation with the customer service person, but the mother of the kid interrupted me and called me rude for not stopping what I was doing to accept her apology.  So I excused myself from the conversation I had been having and told her exactly what I thought of her. 

 

You see, some people have a lot of nerve.  She had a lot of nerve to act like I was in the wrong for not acknowledging her after she allowed her kid to plow a cart into me.  And YOU have a lot of nerve to expect stores to police disabled people.  Nobody would ever find it acceptable to police able-bodied people and their use of regular carts.  But here you are, advocating that it be done to disabled people.  Unbelievable.

 

Go ahead and contact your lawyer or your congressional reps or whomever you like.  I'm sure you will get exactly the response you deserve.

 

 

 

 



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@comedy clubber wrote:

I have many friends who are lawyers, in many states.  All of them said to me, their store and their equipment.  Is there a record of maintenance on the chairs? Is there a checkout system in place?  Does any store employee monitor the people using the carts , by asking if the person is alone? needs help?  reaching shelf items can tip the carts, so is that monitored?  They have lots of liability, their facility and their equipment.  Even a friend who owns a small boutique shop shuddered when she heard my story.  She repeated, their facility, their equipment.  They are just a business that WANTS customers to think that they  care by making donations or sponsoring events.  Bottom line is that they DON'T CARE about me, you, or the lamp post.  As long as they can get away with honest people like myself doing the right thing, seeking treatment  without threats and not hauling them into court, they will get away with their unconscionable behaviors and carelessness.

I think it is so sad that so many of you defend them and, your words not mine, some jerky or ignorant people who ride on these dangerous, in the wrong hands, wheelchair carts.  By the way, I have had 23 knee surgeries on my right knee, including two knee replacements of that knee after a serious childhood injury.  I used a cart one time and decided that I would find another way to navigate a grocery store.  A friend whose father died as a result of Parkinson's Disease said she, being able bodied, tried a cart to see if she should put her dad in one.  Scared off by the way the cart worked, she just kept him next to her with a walker.  I am not ignorant about disabilities, I just see way too many "handicapped " people running or walking rapidly from their "handicapped" parking spaces.  Getting those permits and using the wheelchair carts are way too easy.


 

   @comedy clubber 

You, and your thread, lost ALL credibility with this post.

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I saw a younger person using a grocery electric cart rather carelessly.  I watched and wondered if he was disabled.  Turns out he was joyriding and just a jerk.  I do think the stores need to keep an eye out for potential abuse of these carts.  Most people are no problem at all when they use a cart responsibly.  

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Maybe this has already been stated, but where is this store located? (They're all over the place in our state.)

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@comedy clubber wrote:

I have many friends who are lawyers, in many states.  All of them said to me, their store and their equipment.  Is there a record of maintenance on the chairs? Is there a checkout system in place?  Does any store employee monitor the people using the carts , by asking if the person is alone? needs help?  reaching shelf items can tip the carts, so is that monitored?  They have lots of liability, their facility and their equipment.  Even a friend who owns a small boutique shop shuddered when she heard my story.  She repeated, their facility, their equipment.  They are just a business that WANTS customers to think that they  care by making donations or sponsoring events.  Bottom line is that they DON'T CARE about me, you, or the lamp post.  As long as they can get away with honest people like myself doing the right thing, seeking treatment  without threats and not hauling them into court, they will get away with their unconscionable behaviors and carelessness.

I think it is so sad that so many of you defend them and, your words not mine, some jerky or ignorant people who ride on these dangerous, in the wrong hands, wheelchair carts.  By the way, I have had 23 knee surgeries on my right knee, including two knee replacements of that knee after a serious childhood injury.  I used a cart one time and decided that I would find another way to navigate a grocery store.  A friend whose father died as a result of Parkinson's Disease said she, being able bodied, tried a cart to see if she should put her dad in one.  Scared off by the way the cart worked, she just kept him next to her with a walker.  I am not ignorant about disabilities, I just see way too many "handicapped " people running or walking rapidly from their "handicapped" parking spaces.  Getting those permits and using the wheelchair carts are way too easy.


@comedy clubber  As usual a story about a cart hitting you turned into all sorts of extended stories.  Trying, and I do mean trying, to justify your story with all of this isn't working.

 

How many people have you actually seen "running or walking rapidly" from a HP parking space?  One?  Two?  Fifty?

 

"Those permits" are not that easy.  And those with hand controls have to take road tests periodically, as my DS does, in my state.  DH's permit required a prescription from our PCP.

 

So perhaps all those lawyers you know in all those states can enlighten you on the variety of processes needed to obtain a placard/plate.

 

And shame on you.

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