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@Kachina624 I agree that reducing expenses would be the obvious first step in ensuring enough money is available for bills but I’m referring to the drastic increase in housing (both renting and buying) that is making a roof over one’s head more and more unattainable for many. I know your post was really about wages but I felt it tied into the cost of living these days.
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@Trinity11 wrote:

They said pay and benefits. Are they adjusting the salary by putting a price on the benefits, including the value of the benefits in the $170,000.00? At that pay scale, we will have kids not bothering with college.😳


is that bad no college,?

kids/parents take out loans that are crippling with little hope of a job to pay it back

 

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In response to the thread title: no, it's not too much. Drivers are under a lot of pressure to deliver on time and are judged on service. They deserve pay and benefits accordingly. It doesn't matter how much education they have. It's about what the job requires. 

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@Trinity11 wrote:

@kaydee50 wrote:

@ninjawife wrote:

@Trinity11 wrote:

They said pay and benefits. Are they adjusting the salary by putting a price on the benefits, including the value of the benefits in the $170,000.00? At that pay scale, we will have kids not bothering with college.😳


@Trinity11 Not everyone is cut out to go to college.  That doesn't mean they shouldn't make a comfortable living for a hard day's work. 


Agree 100%.  Not everyone should go to college, and IMO a college education is overrated.  I too appreciate the hard work UPS/Fedex and other drivers do.  They deserve whatever they can get.


I never said that everyone needs to go to college. I thought of it as a positive for kids strained financially to attend college. Now they can make a liveable wage @kaydee50 . Just another choice.

 

A college education is the best gift a child can have if they wish to pursue a profession. It is not overrated.


@Trinity11 However a college education doesn't guarentee you a profession where you make a comfortable living.  My oldest DD went to graduate school at Cambridge and has a master's in heritage studies.  She barely makes a livable income in Washington DC where she lives.  Of course she loves her job writing and managing social media content for the Holocaust Museum which is sometimes more important than making a lot of money. 

 

Youngest DD was not cut out for college and went to trade school to become an esthetician.  It was the right choice for her and hopefully when she gets her license she will get a well paying job. 

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Re: Is This Too Much?

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In the entire scheme of things, a UPS driver is more important* than many of the (???) workers.

 

Sorry that was a typo ...* fixed it!

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@Kachina624  GIven the time in which I grew up and worked for most of my career, yes, it's too much. It can be a physically demanding job, but not necessarily a hard one. In the day, that's the kind of package professional folks earned at some point in their career. I guess given the messed up times in which we now live, it's what the traffic will bear. It just means higher prices for us and, of course, I'd guess most of us aren't getting that kind of raise.


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@ALRATIBA wrote:
In the entire scheme of things, a UPS driver is more unimportant than many of the (???) workers.

@ALRATIBA.  Not unimportant but less valuable with a lot less responsibility than many workers.

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@jackthebear wrote:

@Trinity11 wrote:

They said pay and benefits. Are they adjusting the salary by putting a price on the benefits, including the value of the benefits in the $170,000.00? At that pay scale, we will have kids not bothering with college.😳


is that bad no college,?

kids/parents take out loans that are crippling with little hope of a job to pay it back

 


That's their own poor planning. A person doesn't have to go to an ivy league/expensive school to get a good education and people should look at what job they'll end up with and how much it pays ahead of time.

 

I know someone who dreamed of going to Harvard and figured out a way to make that happen without all the loans.

 

I know someone else who got a degree but didn't check what job they'd have or how much it would pay beforehand. Learned the hard way that the degree wasn't going to cut it.

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@jackthebear wrote:

@Trinity11 wrote:

They said pay and benefits. Are they adjusting the salary by putting a price on the benefits, including the value of the benefits in the $170,000.00? At that pay scale, we will have kids not bothering with college.😳


is that bad no college,?

kids/parents take out loans that are crippling with little hope of a job to pay it back

 


@jackthebear.  Yes, less people with college educations downgrades our workforce.  Ignorance is rampant in our country now; we don't need it to get worse.

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$170k is just plain crazy. I work in a top healthcare corporation and, relatively speaking, $170k is way too much for the level of skill, competence, education, responsibility, risks, etc that a UPS delivery person has. Yes, it's an important job, but so are school teachers, for example, that make about a third of that. Enough said.