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[Greeneyedlady21]

I said to a friend today about this story-if people haven't learned by college that words and actions have consequences, then they have really learned nothing at all. And will they ever? You don't need to attend Harvard to learn that either.

Mind boggling and quite interesting to me, that many people think the Internet and things you say and do on it are completely detached from humanity. And devoid of it.

[Spurt]

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@wvumountiefan wrote:

What I have a hard time understanding is the fact that the parents of these students will sue Harvard for rescinding their acceptances??? Wow!! Does that not send the message to these kids that the parents are okay with what they did? My guess is that if there are law suits by the kids and parents, then these kids have done wrong things before and there were never any consequences. 

No way in Haiti's would I defend my son for these kind of behaviors!! No way! 

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@wvumountiefan

That is my take too....that if they've reached this stage and went all through high school with noconsequences (and these attitudes just didnt happen overnight I wonder what other things they were involved with throuh the years) the parents probably always looked the other way or made excuses for these kids......That's why I believe in "hard knocks" and no second chances to get it to sink into their thick heads there are definite consequences for unacceptable actions .........If the parents bring legal action I wonder if the states could bring legal action against these idiots for hate crimes ...........

It reminds me of an incident in our city, shortly after Sandy Hook, a high school student was expelled for bringing a gun to school, thankfully no one was harmed he brought the gun to "show off:. And what was the mother's attitude, "what do they expect me to do with him since he can't go to school"...............  doesnt that speak volumes........SMH

[stevieb]

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@JJsMom wrote:

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@stevieb wrote:

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As always, we're free to disagree... Had the decision been mine, I might well have offered them a probationary acceptance, making it clear that the choice was theirs to clean up their acts and to sink or swim... Call me crazy, but I often believe in second chances... particularly when the 'offense' was a verbal one. I'm sure some of the comments were reprehensible, but at the end of the day, none of the prospective students actually 'did' anything to anyone... They posted stupid comments...

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That's all those posts were to you? "Stupid"?

Try heinous, despicable, vile, deplorable ...

If you think this is normal youthful indescretion, I have to wonder about your standards.

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That's fine... You're absolutely within your rights to wonder about my 'standards'... I'm free not to give a moment's pause whether you do or not or what conclusions you draw...

[chrystaltree]

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@wvumountiefan wrote:

What I have a hard time understanding is the fact that the parents of these students will sue Harvard for rescinding their acceptances??? Wow!! Does that not send the message to these kids that the parents are okay with what they did? My guess is that if there are law suits by the kids and parents, then these kids have done wrong things before and there were never any consequences. 

No way in Haiti's would I defend my son for these kind of behaviors!! No way! 

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      The parents won't sue Harvard becaue their kid's posts were vile and reprehensible.  They don't want their kids outed.  Harvard did not identify them and those kids who are very smart and  obviously applied to more than one Ivy league school.  If they can, they'll simply go to their second choice school.  If they declined because they thought they were going to Harvard, they'll take a gap year and apply for admission to other schools for Fall 2018.  If the parents sue, all the dirt comes out and Harvard with it's armies of Harvard Law attorneys will win....after dragging the jerks and their parents through the courts for years because colleges can rescind an acceptance, even without cause.  That happened to my niece's friend.  She (and some others) were accepted to a particular college in error.  They were supposed to get wait listed but acceptance letters went out by mistake.  They got lovely, heartfelt letters of apology.......but their acceptance was rescinded and by the time all of this happened in the summer, my niece's friend had no school to go to.  She attended a community college for a semester and applied for admission to 4 year colleges in January.  It was devasting at the time but it was just a "blip" in her life....she begins her second year of medical school in August.

[TenderMercies]

My friend, who is also my doctor, has two sons. His older son has two PhD's and is married with children, his other son, who is one year younger than his brother has been in jail several times for drug dealing and is a drug user and alcoholic.  I have another friend who is a heart doctor, and her parents are both in jail for making and selling meth. She was basically raised in a meth lab and has scars on her body from where her parents would burn her for fun when they would get high.  My point is that it works both ways.  The best parents could produce the worst kids and vice versa.  You can't always blame the parents, nor can you always give them credit. 

[AngusandBuddhasMom]

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@TenderMercies wrote:

My friend, who is also my doctor, has two sons. His older son has two PhD's and is married with children, his other son, who is one year younger than his brother has been in jail several times for drug dealing and is a drug user and alcoholic.  I have another friend who is a heart doctor, and her parents are both in jail for making and selling meth. She was basically raised in a meth lab and has scars on her body from where her parents would burn her for fun when they would get high.  My point is that it works both ways.  The best parents could produce the worst kids and vice versa.  You can't always blame the parents, nor can you always give them credit. 

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OK that said the fact that the parents of these darlings are suing Harvad looks to their parenting skills. They are not letting their darlings take responsibilty for their actions. They are trying to make it better. So in this case yeah it goes to how they were raised. 

[KathyPet]

WHere are people reading that the parents are going to,sue Harvard?  I have seen nothing on this and as others have stated you would think that the families would not want the publicity it would bring.  It would certainly injure any chances of being accepted at another college if their names were made public.

[AngusandBuddhasMom]

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@KathyPet wrote:

WHere are people reading that the parents are going to,sue Harvard?  I have seen nothing on this and as others have stated you would think that the families would not want the publicity it would bring.  It would certainly injure any chances of being accepted at another college if their names were made public.

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I don't know if your post is addressing my post above but my mention of it comes from talking to friends and colleagues who have either kids at Harvard or know more it seems about this issue. So I am relaying my thoughts on it. I can't speak for anyone else.

[KingstonsMom]

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@Blingqueen023 wrote:

These students are just a reflection of their parents!!

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@Blingqueen023

I respectfully disagree.

Parents can do everything in their power to instill good values (in all respects) when they are raising their children, but once they are adults parents can't control whether their children follow what they were taught.

I don't think it's fair to blame the parents.....we can lead a horse to water, but we can't make them drink, so to speak.

[KingstonsMom]

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@Blingqueen023 wrote:

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@KathyPet wrote:

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@Blingqueen023 wrote:

These students are just a reflection of their parents!!

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THat is a extremely broad and possibly a very inaccurate statement.  Plenty of kids who were raised right make very stupid errors in judgement.  JUst because a child knows the right thing to do,does not automatically mean they will always do the right thing.

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That statement is true except for one thing.  If they were raised right, they wouldn't have posted what they posted on social media.  I still think these students are just a reflection of their parents. 

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@Blingqueen023

You must not be a parent of an adult child........