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Anyone use/try Drunk Elephant C-Firma Day serum?

Pretty expensive- $80 per 1 oz- but some very nice ingredients in it, including ferulic acid. I was just wondering if anyone has tried it and what their thoughts are. Also if it caused any irritation. TIA!

 

 

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Re: Anyone use/try Drunk Elephant C-Firma Day serum?

don't tell me what this is made from  Smiley Sad

 

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@MalteseMomma wrote:

don't tell me what this is made from  Smiley Sad

 


What are you talking about? This is cruelty free, no animal byproducts (which is more than I can say about your Philosophy Smiley Sad ). Is that what you are referring to? Here is more information or you can go to their website and actually learn about the products if you care to be informed.

 

From their website:

 

If there's any DOUBT, it's OUT.

Drunk Elephant believes that when it comes to ingredients, if there's any DOUBT, it’s OUT. This list is compiled from many resources including the David Suzuki Foundation, The Campaign for Safe Cosmetics and Truth in Aging, which have provided information that has been instrumental in our quest for safe and effective skin care. It’s become very typical in the last couple of years for a company to remove the toxins and potentially harmful ingredients. We have, of course, followed suit. However, we took things a very significant step further and left out any and all fragrance, synthetic and natural; essential oils included. This is what makes us different. This is what will make the difference in your skin. Trust your nose…and read on to see our full blacklist!


Animal fats, oils, and musks: Tallow, rendered beef or mutton fat, oils or musks from animals like mink, emu and sharks that are procured after an animal has been killed.

Benzalkonium chloride: a disinfectant used as a preservative and surfactant associated with severe skin, eye and respiratory irritation and allergies.

Benzophenone and derivatives: a possible human carcinogen and hormone disruptor used as a fragrance ingredient and to absorb ultraviolet light.

Bisphenol A (BPA) : a hormone disruptor that may also alter DNA, used in plastics and resins.

Butoxyethanol: a solvent used to control viscosity, or a “fragrance” additive. It irritates skin and may cause cancer and reproductive toxicity.

BHA and BHT: synthetic antioxidants used to extend shelf life. They are likely carcinogens and hormone disruptors, and may cause liver damage.

Chemical Sunscreens(with Retinyl Palmitate, Oxybenzone and Octyl Methoxycinnamate): May be potentially carcinogenic or have other health risks, including skin irritation. When many of the chemicals used in popular sunscreens are exposed to sunlight, reactions occur between the sunscreen’s active and inactive ingredients and the epidermis. Toxic reactions include inflammation, dermalogical effects, allergic reactions and photogenotoxic (DNA altering) effects. Chemical sunscreens have ingredients that actually promote cancer.

Coal tar hair dyes and other coal tar ingredients (including Aminophenol, Diaminobenzene, Phenylenediamine) : a byproduct of coal processing that is a known carcinogen. Potential to cause cancer and can be contaminated with heavy metals toxic to the brain.

Essential Oils: A complex mix of many different chemical components that are known to cause skin irritation and/or allergic sensitization. Often associated with skin allergies, inflammation, redness and contact dermatitis. Can be found in products that are “all natural” or intended, ironically, for “sensitive skin”. Perceived by skin to be complex chemical components and can be linked to the breakdown of collagen.

Ethanolamines (MEA/DEA/TEA) : Surfactants and pH adjusters linked to allergies, skin toxicity, hormone disruption, and inhibited fetal brain development. Can react to form cancer-causing nitrosamines. Harmful to fish and other wildlife.

Formaldehyde: A known carcinogen that is also linked to asthma, neurotoxicity, and developmental toxicity. Present where quaternium-15, DMDM Hydantoin, Imidazolidinyl Urea, Diazolidinyl Urea, Sodium Hydroxymethylglycinate, 2-Bromo-2-Nitropropane-1,3 diol (Bronopol) and several other preservatives are listed.

Fragrance or flavor, synthetic OR natural: an engineered scent or flavoring agent that may contain any combination of 3,000+ stock chemical ingredients, including hormone disruptors and allergens. Fragrance formulas are protected under federal law's classification of trade secrets, and therefore can remain undisclosed.

Hydroquinone: A skin lightening chemical that inhibits the production of melaninand is a linked to cancer, organ toxicity and skin irritation.

Methyl cellosolve: A fragrance ingredient and solvent that is an irritant and a possible neurotoxin, developmental toxin, and cause of DNA mutations that could lead to cancer.

Methylisothiazolinone and Methylchloroisothiazolinone: Chemical preservatives that are irritants, sensitizers and common causes of contact skin allergies.

Mercury and mercury compounds (also listed as Thimerosal) : Metallic element used as a preservative and antiseptic known to damage brain function.

Oxybenzone: Sunscreen agent and ultraviolet light absorber linked to irritation, sensitization and allergies, and possible hormone disruption. See CHEMICAL SUNSCREENS.

Parabens: a class of preservatives believed to be hormone disruptors, which alter important hormonal mechanisms in our bodies. Parabens mimic estrogen; they can lock on to our cell’s own estrogen receptors and interfere with important natural signals. They may also be associated with triggering breast cancer; although this has not been proven. Look out for ingredients with “paraben” in their name (methylparaben, butylparaben, propylparaben, isobutylparaben, ethylparaben.

Phthalates (DBP, DEHP, DEP and others): a class of plasticizing chemicals used to make products more pliable or to make fragrances stick to skin. Phthalates disrupt the endocrine system and may cause birth defects. Toxic to reproduction and harmful to fish and other wildlife.

Polyethylene glycol (PEG compounds): PEGs are widely used in cosmetics as thickeners, solvents, softeners, and moisture-carriers. Depending on manufacturing processes, PEGs may be contaminated with measurable amounts of ethylene oxide and 1,4-dioxane, which are both carcinogens.

Resorcinol: a colorant and fragrance ingredient that is a skin irritant, toxic to theimmune system and organs, and suspected to cause hormone disruption.

Retinyl palmitate and Retinol (Vitamin A) : a nutrient that may damage DNA and speed the growth of skin tumors when used topically.

Sodium Lauryl Sulfate and Sodium Laureth Sulfate (SLS and SLES): SLS and SLES are surfactants that can cause skin irritation and trigger allergies. SLES is often contaminated with 1,4-dioxane, a byproduct of a petrochemical process called ethoxylation which is used to process other chemicals in order to make them less harsh.

Synthetic flavor or fragrance: an engineered scent or flavoring agent that may contain any combination of 3,000+ stock chemical ingredients, including hormone disruptors and allergens. Fragrance formulas are protected under federal law's classification of trade secrets, and therefore can remain undisclosed. Found in: all types of cosmetics.

Toluene: a volatile petrochemical solvent that is toxic to the immune system and can cause birth defects.

Triclosan and Triclocarban: antimicrobial pesticides toxic to the aquatic environment; may also impact human reproductive systems.



At the end of the day, there are many who argue that this is overly reactive and there isn’t sufficient evidence to support these claims. We are not saying that all of these ingredients are going to kill you or even actually hurt you, only that if there is a clean, effective substitute, we'll find it and use it.  We are concerned with your and our internal health and external skin health. For Drunk Elephant, "If there's any DOUBT, it's OUT.”

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Re: Anyone use/try Drunk Elephant C-Firma Day serum?

I use it and love it!  I was using Paula's Vit C before this and liked it but this C Firma Day Serum is even better for my dry and mature skin.  I got it at Dermstore with one of their 30% codes so the price was not as painful as full price.  Dermstore has 20% often and 30% occasionally so they will be my source to continue buying it.

 

The "Drunk Elephant"refers to the marula oil in it, I believe elephants get drunk symptom when they eat marula nuts (if I recall correctly).

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@LaurenNicole thank you for your feedback, I appreciate it! Yes, I figured if I was going to try it, I would definitely look for it on sale somewhere.Glad to hear it is one of the brands NOT excluded from Dermstore's sales. It seems most of my brands are these days. Thanks again!

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I'm about 1/2 way through my first ounce of this product.

 

The scent is a light orange to me, very faint and enjoyable.

 

My skin does not like 'C' as a rule, I have a problem working it in between Retin-A, and BHA without redness even though I alternate them at night and wash well before applying 'C' in the AM.  However, I have had no redness with this product.

 

It absorbs quickly, and my skin looks bright and even.  Additionally it seems to tighten, not dry out, but tighten my skin.

 

In the past I've used Mad Hippie, and Isomers, am liking this brand more than either.

 

The only thing I don't like is the price.

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@Drythe thank you for your feedback. As you know, I really respect your opinons. Smiley Happy Assuming you've used it once a day, how long has it lasted you so far? Thank!

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Re: Anyone use/try Drunk Elephant C-Firma Day serum?

I also agree with Drythe, my skin does look more toned (tighter) and definitely fresh and a little glow that I've always expected from C Serums but never got before.  Lots of good ingredients in it and it is not a clear serum (due to the Curcumin per Paula's review).  Due to the nice, non drying effect from the C Firma I actually ordered Marual Oil to try as I'm running low on my JM Argan Oil.  Not the Drunk Elephant brand (need to save my $ for their C Serum), I ordered the Acure Marula Oil for $13.00.  I'll post after I've used it. 

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@LaurenNicole wrote:

I also agree with Drythe, my skin does look more toned (tighter) and definitely fresh and a little glow that I've always expected from C Serums but never got before.  Lots of good ingredients in it and it is not a clear serum (due to the Curcumin per Paula's review).  Due to the nice, non drying effect from the C Firma I actually ordered Marual Oil to try as I'm running low on my JM Argan Oil.  Not the Drunk Elephant brand (need to save my $ for their C Serum), I ordered the Acure Marula Oil for $13.00.  I'll post after I've used it. 


@LaurenNicole I actually have used 100%  marula oil for 3 years or so now. I like it but it can be a bit heavy for my skin at times. I like it better than argan oil but not as well as rosehip seed oil. I don't use it often but usually always have some on hand. I've been buying Shea Terra Organics marula oil for all these years (using the 30% off coupon of course, lol).  I did read about the color of the vitamin C serum being similar to the color of oxidized vitamin C serums, lol, but because of the air tight packaging, there really is no worry that the product has gone bad. Good to know or I would have frreaked out a bit if I saw that color, lol!

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Re: Anyone use/try Drunk Elephant C-Firma Day serum?

Beautypedia certainly likes this serum. I do notice that the pH is 3.5, higher than my much less expensive NCN, which is stated to be 2.0.

 

Any thoughts?


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