Re: This is messed up!

hckynut · ‎03-10-2010

@missy1 wrote:
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@missy1 wrote

Yes, it' s relative. But someone who draws 700 a month verses 2000+ is a big difference.The one who makes 700 will have to work like the OP. People don't always have huge savings to fall back on for retirement.

There are few who abuse welfare. But for the most they really need it. Do you think they want to be on ebt and get handouts?

@missy1

I don't know 1 single person on SS that gets 2,000 bucks a month. Pensions? A friend of mine was a Steel Worker for 20 years, he gets $4300 a month pension. I worked 33 for 1 of the biggest companies during that time. My pension is in the 3 figures, and those are 1991 dollars(no raises in 27 years).

A FEW who abuse Welfare? Check the billions of $$$ from the number of abuses. When there are 3 generations in 1 household getting welfare, that tells me all I need to know.

And check the ADA passed by the late GWB! It was to allow more disabled to be able to work. Guess what? Since that was passed into law, disability claims have more than doubled, the exact opposite of its intent.

If people work 49-50 years of their lives, even at meager salaries, many live within their means and still manage to save over those decades. Others prefer in one pocket, out the other. And should those that saved fall on hard times? They do not qualify for entitlement assistance. Those that spent the same made? They get the the "hand up". Another, strange no? Penalized for saving!

I'm out! Could write a book about my experience from being born in Public Housing Projects, long before welfare was even thought about. To retiring at 52 and because of my frugal living all.those decades, doing just fine. Rich in $$$? Hardly! Rich in life? Exceptionally!

hckynut

hckynut(john)

Sooner · ‎03-10-2010

@RinaRina wrote:
@CalminHeart wrote:
I worked for a huge company for almost 40 years. There are 8,000 employees just in this location and many thousands more around the world. And lots of people were dating and married. In all those years, I saw just one relationship cause a problem. It was quickly handled and that was the end of that issue.

Any time you have a large business, there will be relationships. It's just life.

BTW, what does her weight have to do with anything? That was a fat shaming comment.
I also mentioned her age. My point was, at my age, I don't have the stamina to be bullied by a 20 something year old woman almost twice my weight ... and she knows it!

@RinaRina Here are some questions I will ask of not just you, but of anyone in a similar situation at work:

1. Is the turmoil exciting to you? Are a willing participant in the bickering and the back and forth?

2. Do you have an interest in who "wins?" Do you have a favorite?

3. If you do not need the income why on earth would you be a party to this?

4. If you need the income, why wouldn't you be quiet, do the job as best you can, put your head down and try to keep the job.

5. Taking sides like this will almost always result in you losing your job, no matter whose side you take. In situations like this, people get fired and it's always the people from the bottom up--no matter what side you are on. You will be seen as the problem.

I worked a long time, and have seem this time after time after time. If you feel like you have a "friend" who will save you, you don't.

RinaRina · ‎03-13-2010

Sooner,

You're right. The END is near.

"The less you respond to negative people, the more peaceful your life will become."

RespectLife · ‎02-27-2012

@CalminHeart wrote:
I worked for a huge company for almost 40 years. There are 8,000 employees just in this location and many thousands more around the world. And lots of people were dating and married. In all those years, I saw just one relationship cause a problem. It was quickly handled and that was the end of that issue.

Any time you have a large business, there will be relationships. It's just life.

BTW, what does her weight have to do with anything? That was a fat shaming comment.

I totally agree that comment was mean and uncalled for. I sure hope the sentiments you harbor regarding her size were not conveyed to others on the job!!! Even if insinuated, they could have gotten back to her.

These days, that is considered harrassment and is dismissable.

You could get a job as an Art Aid anywhere. Since you are not a Teacher (contracted and unionized) your salary can't be an issue.

Clearly they do not want to work with you, and you do not want to work with them.

MOVE ON. Save yourself the stress.

The situations you are allowing in front of the children is just WRONG!

Be the better person! Take your talents and gifts elsewhere. How wonderful you want to share with the children.

It is very easy to find a 12-15 hour job.

I applaud you for wanting to work and be productive. I hope to do the same!

RinaRina · ‎03-13-2010

@RespectLife wrote:

The situations you are allowing in front of the children is just WRONG!

ITA! I hope you realize that was not my doing. I was sitting in my room with my assigned kids doing what I'm supposed to do. She had no right to bolt into the room and demand I only speak to her if I have something to say.

She could've waited until the end of the day .. or texted me.
I had no choice but to leave the room. It was embarassing!

"The less you respond to negative people, the more peaceful your life will become."

patofl · ‎11-18-2018

@RinaRina wrote:
@RespectLife wrote:

The situations you are allowing in front of the children is just WRONG!

ITA! I hope you realize that was not my doing. I was sitting in my room with my assigned kids doing what I'm supposed to do. She had no right to bolt into the room and demand I only speak to her if I have something to say.

She could've waited until the end of the day .. or texted me.
I had no choice but to leave the room. It was embarassing!

You always have a choice - and the choice you made was incorrect.You NEVER walk away and leave children unattended , NEVER. Just because what she did was wrong doesn't make what you did right. Honestly, you should both be disciplined.

CrazyDaisy · ‎03-20-2010

@RinaRina wrote:
@RespectLife wrote:

The situations you are allowing in front of the children is just WRONG!

ITA! I hope you realize that was not my doing. I was sitting in my room with my assigned kids doing what I'm supposed to do. She had no right to bolt into the room and demand I only speak to her if I have something to say.

She could've waited until the end of the day .. or texted me.
I had no choice but to leave the room. It was embarassing!

Or a simple "OK, I will"

Someday, when scientists discover the center of the Universe....some people will be disappointed it is not them.

Bridgegal · ‎03-09-2010

@RinaRina

Her timing and location was wrong. Her message was correct. You were wrong to go to your supervisor. The first step in any employee issue is to talk to the other person. And the fact that they are in a relationship makes your going to him first wrong and in poor judgement.

RinaRina · ‎03-13-2010

Done!

Just applied for a VOLUNTEER position elsewhere.

And yes, - to whoever suggested it - I CAN get a job as an art aid, which just happens to be available right now.

"The less you respond to negative people, the more peaceful your life will become."

qualitygal · ‎10-04-2010

I didn't read ALL these comments, but the hobbies you have, I'll bet if you have a senior center in your area, you could join some of those groups and you'd love it. Then you can keep working to pay for your purchases for some of these pastimes, and you can do your 12 hours of work a week and have fun at the senior center. Then you can do your job while you are there and let the rest of it go. jmho