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I have 'skin in the game' on both sides.

The avenue where it gets released to become a viral news story...

is the one to question.  In this case.....the deputies.

 

The County Sheriff tweeted that Starbucks was "anti-cop"

simply because they were ignored for 5 minutes.  
That seems a little drama triggering...like they were wanting a fight

to prove their point.

 

There are good arguments on both sides, but my SO is very aware

of his police 'presence', whether in uniform or plain clothes/badge.

And yeah, there has been instances where it was just easier to 

remove oneself from the situation.  

 

And as the classic saying goes, 'choose your battles.'

 

Boycotting Starbucks? No

Boycotting Law Enforcement? No

It was an isolated incident...classic David & Goliath.

Bigger fish to fry. 

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I drink my coffee at home. Never go out for an overpriced cup of coffee. 

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   The employees involved should be fired.Going forward the company needs to make it clear to all employees that they have no authority to deny anybody service,period. If they do they're jobs will be terminated.

  Only a manager with a darn good reason or corporate should have the authority to refuse a customer service!!

   That being said Starbucks should set aside a day to welcome the local police officers in to their shops for free coffee. The police at the same time need to reach out to the community & establish a dialogue that will improve their relationship.

   We need mutual respect here.

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@KingstonsMom wrote:

@Porcelain 

 

With all due respect and color me stupid, but I don't understand your response above to @hckynut at all.

 

Maybe it's just me, but I don't 'get' your point, no offense intended whatsoever.


Don't assume that people you don't know are anti-police. That's a generalization.

 

Respect for police is a very touchy topic for many, and nuance can be looked upon as something horrible. I personally feel that way (seeing nuanced ideas as having bad faith behind them) about a few completely different topics. So I can relate to having little tolerance for questioning or dissent against a position I hold sincerely, and labeling those who have different views with a label they probably don't deserve. i.e. anti police.

 

I am sorry if you don't undestand this response. Sometimes it's hard to communicate with people who have different or opposite ways of seeing the world. In the interests of not engaging in an argument, I'm not going to go back and forth trying to convince you of anything in particular. Heart

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@sidsmom wrote:

I have 'skin in the game' on both sides.

The avenue where it gets released to become a viral news story...

is the one to question.  In this case.....the deputies.

 

The County Sheriff tweeted that Starbucks was "anti-cop"

simply because they were ignored for 5 minutes.  
That seems a little drama triggering...like they were wanting a fight

to prove their point.

 

There are good arguments on both sides, but my SO is very aware

of his police 'presence', whether in uniform or plain clothes/badge.

And yeah, there has been instances where it was just easier to 

remove oneself from the situation.  

 

And as the classic saying goes, 'choose your battles.'

 

Boycotting Starbucks? No

Boycotting Law Enforcement? No

It was an isolated incident...classic David & Goliath.

Bigger fish to fry. 


@sidsmom @Three incidents recently in different shops....just can’t belive that some people don’t th8nk it needs to be corrected.

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@dex wrote:

@sidsmom wrote:

I have 'skin in the game' on both sides.

The avenue where it gets released to become a viral news story...

is the one to question.  In this case.....the deputies.

 

The County Sheriff tweeted that Starbucks was "anti-cop"

simply because they were ignored for 5 minutes.  
That seems a little drama triggering...like they were wanting a fight

to prove their point.

 

There are good arguments on both sides, but my SO is very aware

of his police 'presence', whether in uniform or plain clothes/badge.

And yeah, there has been instances where it was just easier to 

remove oneself from the situation.  

 

And as the classic saying goes, 'choose your battles.'

 

Boycotting Starbucks? No

Boycotting Law Enforcement? No

It was an isolated incident...classic David & Goliath.

Bigger fish to fry. 


@sidsmom @Three incidents recently in different shops....just can’t belive that some people don’t th8nk it needs to be corrected.


@dex 

3 associates out of 183,000 Starbucks associates..and those

3 instances are being investigated...with a statement from

Starbucks apologizing.  I like @NicksmomESQ 's idea of having mutual

respect w/ a community building between Starbucks & local police.

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@vsm wrote:

@Jaspersmom wrote:

That was not right.  HOWEVER, I wish the same people who are outraged by this behavior would hold others to the same standard.  There isn't a day that goes by that we don't see a lack of civility and decency in our own government.  The name calling and bullying is sickening and these are our elected officials.  Just another reason why I like my cat a whole lot more than humans.


What's your basis for assuming they don't?


@vsm, I know exactly what @Jaspersmom is talking about, and I sadly agree with her. But neither she nor anyone else can elaborate without bringing down this thread, which has been on thin ice since the get-go.

 

Perhaps you can figure it out, though.


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@sidsmom there was very little reported incidents of people being asked to leave Starbucks if they didn’t make a purchase or being denied the bathroom...that got addressed though.I think that this should be too.

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@dex wrote:

@sidsmom there was very little reported incidents of people being asked to leave Starbucks if they didn’t make a purchase or being denied the bathroom...that got addressed though.I think that this should be too.


@dex 

Not sure why my opinion is continually being singled out.

🤷‍♀️

Like I said upthread,

there are good arguments for both sides.

 

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I have the utmost respect for law enforcement but also realize that not all law enforcement agents are capable of every human foible we all have. Not knowing what the heck the OP is talking about, if there was an incident in Starbucks (or a few Starbucks), Starbucks should apologize. if it is an endemic problem like the racism was, then extra training is warranted. Since many of us are not aware of what happened, it seems like it was an isolated or rare instance. Time will tell. Starbucks is one of the rare companies that offers healthcare to part time employees and benefits as well as a livable wage. 


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