Wellness

[Susan Louise]

@JeanLouiseFinch   That's a great article you found. It should help some folks understand some points better.

[JeanLouiseFinch]

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@Starry50 wrote:

Why @Susan Louise do you and @JeanLouiseFinch continue with pushing your lifestyles here? Then when those who are sick hearing the same thing you can't understand why you're recognized for the nonsense or called out from repeating the same behavior over and over. 

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Who are you anyways, @Starry50?  I don't recognize your name at all.  Contrary to your false accusation, I am not pushing anything.  @Susan Louise and I have the same right as anyone else here to share an opinion, comments, and information.  No one has to read Word One, if they don't want to, and you're free to scroll right on by.  I live and eat how I want to.  I don't give a rat's patoot what you or anyone else eats.  Even if I believe it's unhealthy, it's not my job to police your plate.  I will, however, give another POV to other's "facts" when I feel there's something valid to share.  I am also happy to answer if someone has a question.  I was able to regain health and add years to my life by losing 150 lbs. through following a healthy version of ketogenic lifestyle, more than just following a carb count, but learning about ingredients that will support health as well as those ingredients that are harmful.  I choose to continue this lifestyle because I've seen the positive impact it's had in my life.  The same can be said for fasting.  My research and reading suggest it's beneficial.  There are plenty of people who eat once a day.  All I've added on to that is skipping my lunch one day. What does it matter to you or anyone else?  

[Susan Louise]

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@Trinity11 wrote:

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@Susan Louise wrote:

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@smoochy wrote:

no one's mind is going to be changed, regardless of articles posted or arguments presented. We all make choices based on what we and our medical providers believe is best. 

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@smoochy  True with one exeption...which is the point of my starting this thread. There are many ignorant doctors that are not helping patients. So many folks don't even realize this and just believe whatever the Dr says when they doney don't bother to do their own homework.

It is sad.

The tipping point for 'most' folks making a change to better their own health is when the pain of their health issue/s of what they are going through exceeds the pain of giving up their carbs/lifestyle they are used to.

Just like with any habits, changing any is hard. Nobody enjoys change. We are creatures of habit.

There are always a small % of folks that no matter what, they won't change. Those are the ones that will smoke their last cigarette on their death bed, be happy to take more insulin over giving up having a cupcake, etc.

Those are the ones nobody can reach...they have to want to help themselves.

I am familiar with several of these positions...

I stopped smoking the day I was diagnosed with lung cancer in 2004.

My biological mother had both legs amputated from diabeties...two weeks before she died when she was 49.

I know of several individuals over the years who would rather have 100 more shots of insulin a day than giving up their carbs/sugars of choice.

For me, giving up carbs totally was painful. However, I love the results of being off all meds, not having to pr*ck my fingers to check my blood sugar level several times a day or have any health issues anymore.

Another added bonus...the savings/$$$ from not having to pay co-pays on meds.

No carb from any food to me tastes better than having my health back...absolutely nothing.

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OMG! 100 shots of insulin per day. Honey, you'd be dead if you took 100 shots of insulin a day.🙃 @Susan Louise 

Your ignorance of diabetes is showing. Type 1 diabetics are not sitting around eating cupcakes. I have had Type 1 for 54 years and I do not eat desserts.🙄 Type 2 diabetics are often on near starvation diets and have severe insulin resistance therefore they gain weight necessitating insulin. I ran support group meetings for years and attended diabetic education classes to further my knowledge.. I saw everything and your descriptions of Type 2 diabetics here are often insulting and inaccurate.

Just know that a diet consuming only meat will eventually make you very, very sick. I knew patients hospitalized with horrible repercussions from carnivore diets. Therefore, your promoting this unhealthy way of eating is really detrimental to the health of this forum.

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@Trinity11   I am not ignorant...I was trying to make a point. As for 100 shots of insulin a day, I personally know someone who actually said this statement...word for word...and I will quote:

"I would rather have to take 100 shots of insulin a day over giving up all my sweet treats".

His comment stuck with me ever since...I will never forget it. He was someone I worked with for nearly 20 years. I also watched him develop many serious health issues over those years as his insulin shots/dosage increased.

There are thousands of other diabetics I'm sure that feel the same. Of coarse it's not 100 shots, but certainly higher doses of insulin and if needed, added shots a day too.

I have seen many folks online that have had toes/limbs removed and then still eat all their carbs they can't give up.

A carb/sugar addiction IMHO is much stronger than any drug or cigarette addiction. The obesity & diabetic #'s growing worldwide...and especially in our country proves it.

Nobody considers sugar/carbs a drug...

Welp, I do.

[Sparky3333]

@Susan Louise Just wanted to say i appreciate anyone who talks about healthy ways of living/eating.....I just dont understand why so many are threatened by anything that might make you healthier..One day humanity will hear just how the medical and pharm industry has deceive them.

I eat very little carbs and if i do its a homemade spelt bread on occasion.We eat organic grass fed beef and organic chicken,eggs and wild caught fish..We also eat vegetables.Occasionally we might have some organic ice cream or homemade chocolate chip cookies from spelt or einkorn flour.....I went from 152 at one point to 133 and have stayed at this for many yrs now and feel great.We also take good quality supplements.We dont go to doctors we take no medications and never have.No jabs either..We have gone in to get blood work at a lab and everything is good..I will be 71 this year and feel blessed to be doing as good as i am.My husband is 61 and healthy as well.

[Venezia]

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@ID2 wrote:
My dh and I made a big change with our health about 5 years ago. We eat no carb. None. We thrive on fruits, veges, protein. We exercise every day by walking. I continue to keep off the 70 lbs I lost. Our health has vastly improved and we are in our early 70's. Life is good.

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@ID2 - I hate to tell you this, but fruits and vegetables do contain carbohydrates.  It pays to do your research.  The information is easy enough to find.

"Although fruits and vegetables do contain carbohydrates, that’s no reason to leave them off your plate. Fruits and veggies contain varying amounts of carbs, so choosing the right ones, in the right amounts, means you can enjoy the health benefits of these delicious and versatile foods while you cut carbs."

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ETA:  I just read back through all the replies and saw that several posters have already pointed this out to you.  Whatever made you think fruits and vegetables contain no carbohydrates?  So many people think, without doing any research, that carbs mean bread, cookies, anything with flour, potato chips, pasta.

[Sparky3333]

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@smoochy wrote:

you must not have any familial/inherited medical conditions. 

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@Goldengate8361 wrote:

@Susan Louise  I agree 100% with everything you said. I often think it's sad that folks, including most doctors, are so resistant to the facts. My health is near perfect on a very low carb diet. Moreover, I really like meat, cheese, eggs, etc. 

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Not necessarily.I am 71 this year and see no doctors take no medications vaxes ect.I eat well and am healthy...Both my parents had heart attacks and heart surgery's..My mom had  a fast growing cancerous tumor bigger than a baseball in 2021.My dad had diabetes.Both parents eat terrible.In fact my dad almost died years ago from acute pancreatitis..My mom is heavy and my dad was before he passed. 5 yrs ago.Both sets of grandparents also had heart problems as well.

[Susan Louise]

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@Sparky3333 wrote:

@Susan Louise Just wanted to say i appreciate anyone who talks about healthy ways of living/eating.....I just dont understand why so many are threatened by anything that might make you healthier. One day humanity will hear just how the medical and pharm industry has deceive them.

I eat very little carbs and if i do its a homemade spelt bread on occasion.We eat organic grass fed beef and organic chicken,eggs and wild caught fish..We also eat vegetables.Occasionally we might have some organic ice cream or homemade chocolate chip cookies from spelt or einkorn flour.....I went from 152 at one point to 133 and have stayed at this for many yrs now and feel great.We also take good quality supplements.We dont go to doctors we take no medications and never have.No jabs either..We have gone in to get blood work at a lab and everything is good..I will be 71 this year and feel blessed to be doing as good as i am.My husband is 61 and healthy as well.

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@Sparky3333  You are so right about Big Food/Big Pharma...absolutely. The sooner the better too. Folks really see what is going on behind the deceptive curtain (I think of the Wizard of Oz).

Thanks for posting/sharing. 

[Venezia]

@Susan Louise - I haven't bothered to watch the video you mentioned, but I'm just puzzled as to why you would call a doctor - a medically-trained professional - "ignorant", just because you clearly don't agree with his/her views.

That's pretty demeaning and does nothing, IMO, to sway someone towards your opinion.  Just a thought.

[Susan Louise]

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@Venezia wrote:

@Susan Louise - I haven't bothered to watch the video you mentioned, but I'm just puzzled as to why you would call a doctor - a medically-trained professional - "ignorant", just because you clearly don't agree with his/her views.

That's pretty demeaning and does nothing, IMO, to sway someone towards your opinion.  Just a thought.

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@Venezia  I guess unless you watch the video, I don't know what to say. It is a podcast of a gentleman explaining why he fired his Dr for his outright ignorance. That gentleman could not have explained things any better. It is worth the hour of anyone's time.

There are lots of other Drs that are the same. They are either lazy (not bothering to keep up with new data/news on health...especially the older ones - stubborn) or don't care about updating their practice on how they manage their patients care. It happens more than you think.

A large part of it too is Drs get kickbacks/pay for pushing Big Pharma druns/scripts. There are Drs that actually fire their patients who won't take the statins they push...no joke.

It is too exhausting for me to think about several examples to share with you. There are many online you can check/research yourself.

I can't force anyone to watch the video...I can only recommend. It is an eye opener though. I don't share post many videos...only the ones I think will be impactful for those who have their eyes open.

There is also a great show & tell about his lightbulb moment about his own sugar/carb consumption...sugar he uses as a visual toward the end which will help many who need a visual.

[Q-Checker]

@Venezia- Thank you for your post. I think some posters are in way over their head and do not know it. They seem to extrapolate what they consider to be significant "facts" from small misguided shreds of information. To call a highly trained physician "ignorant" gives one pause for thought -- is that because the physician does not agree with some off-beat medical speculation? Or is it because one is just blindly following some medical huckster and calling all others "ignorant"? For those who bypass physicians because they think they are in great health, many medical issues do not present symptoms obvious to lay people until the conditions are sadly advanced and the prognosis is less favorable. For those who think  a doctor is "ignorant" because he/she lacks knowledge in a specific area, they are dreaming -- no one doctor can grasp the contemporary huge body of medical knowledge out there, but doctors have the skill and training to know when referral to a specialist is warranted. .