An example of an ignorant doctor... - Page 5

ThinkingOutLoud · ‎05-01-2020

@Venezia wrote:
@Susan Louise - I haven't bothered to watch the video you mentioned, but I'm just puzzled as to why you would call a doctor - a medically-trained professional - "ignorant", just because you clearly don't agree with his/her views.

That's pretty demeaning and does nothing, IMO, to sway someone towards your opinion. Just a thought.

Western doctors are trained to prescribe and cut. They learn very little about nutrition or the many options available that support health. On top of that, these days, doctors are focused on one part of the body instead of the body as a whole. So yes, many are quite ignorant beyond what they've gotten a degree for.

Susan Louise · ‎03-14-2010

For those that don't understand...

Why am I so enthusiastic about sharing the carnivore lifestyle?

Because the benefits/results are just so astounding.

Venezia · ‎03-09-2010

@ThinkingOutLoud - I've run into one or two doctors over my many years, with whom I chose to part company.

But I am happy to say that the majority of those I've dealt with have in no way resembled what you describe. As I said before, I don't like generalizations. And I don't believe the majority of medical professionals are ignorant about nutrition or only focused on one part of the body. Yes, there are specialists, but they have had to go through general medical training before becoming specialists in their fields.

I for one am very thankful to all the medical staff and the surgeon who saved my life only two years ago. They all, including the "focused" specialist, were kind, empathetic, listened and alleviated any fears I had. I knew I was in excellent hands.

Everyone's experience is different. I feel sorry for anyone who thinks his/her doctor is only "trained to prescribe and cut".

We can respectfully agree to disagree.

"" A little learning is a dangerous thing."-Alexander Pope

Starry50 · ‎03-21-2025

@JeanLouiseFinch wrote:
@Starry50 wrote:
Why @Susan Louise do you and @JeanLouiseFinch continue with pushing your lifestyles here? Then when those who are sick hearing the same thing you can't understand why you're recognized for the nonsense or called out from repeating the same behavior over and over.
Who are you anyways, @Starry50? I don't recognize your name at all. Contrary to your false accusation, I am not pushing anything. @Susan Louise and I have the same right as anyone else here to share an opinion, comments, and information. No one has to read Word One, if they don't want to, and you're free to scroll right on by. I live and eat how I want to. I don't give a rat's patoot what you or anyone else eats. Even if I believe it's unhealthy, it's not my job to police your plate. I will, however, give another POV to other's "facts" when I feel there's something valid to share. I am also happy to answer if someone has a question. I was able to regain health and add years to my life by losing 150 lbs. through following a healthy version of ketogenic lifestyle, more than just following a carb count, but learning about ingredients that will support health as well as those ingredients that are harmful. I choose to continue this lifestyle because I've seen the positive impact it's had in my life. The same can be said for fasting. My research and reading suggest it's beneficial. There are plenty of people who eat once a day. All I've added on to that is skipping my lunch one day. What does it matter to you or anyone else?

Who am I? @JeanLouiseFinch new here might consider that fact! My question is valid. To go on and on repeating the same behavior after individuals (Sick To Death) @Susan Louise pushing dangerous carnivor, and you keto "YouTube" will continue calling you out. Keep in mind you're neither physicians should not proclaim "carnivore or keto" medically sound choices. Your last paragraph, plenty of people eat (once a day) means nothing. So what! Plenty of people shouldn't drive intoxicated, yet everyday get into vehicles placing their lives in harms way and others.To use that reason for unhealthy lifestyle not only irresponsible, and dangerous. But, then again carnivore lifestyle keto lifestyle are extreme no surprise then followers are blinded with only extreme thinking.

Q-Checker · ‎05-09-2010

@ThinkingOutLoud Right -- doctors do not specialize in nutrition.Dieticians do. That's why doctors refer patients to dieticians when information about nutrition, beyond a basic level, is needed.

JeanLouiseFinch · ‎10-03-2011

@Starry50 wrote:
@JeanLouiseFinch wrote:
@Starry50 wrote:
Why @Susan Louise do you and @JeanLouiseFinch continue with pushing your lifestyles here? Then when those who are sick hearing the same thing you can't understand why you're recognized for the nonsense or called out from repeating the same behavior over and over.
Who are you anyways, @Starry50? I don't recognize your name at all. Contrary to your false accusation, I am not pushing anything. @Susan Louise and I have the same right as anyone else here to share an opinion, comments, and information. No one has to read Word One, if they don't want to, and you're free to scroll right on by. I live and eat how I want to. I don't give a rat's patoot what you or anyone else eats. Even if I believe it's unhealthy, it's not my job to police your plate. I will, however, give another POV to other's "facts" when I feel there's something valid to share. I am also happy to answer if someone has a question. I was able to regain health and add years to my life by losing 150 lbs. through following a healthy version of ketogenic lifestyle, more than just following a carb count, but learning about ingredients that will support health as well as those ingredients that are harmful. I choose to continue this lifestyle because I've seen the positive impact it's had in my life. The same can be said for fasting. My research and reading suggest it's beneficial. There are plenty of people who eat once a day. All I've added on to that is skipping my lunch one day. What does it matter to you or anyone else?

Who am I? @JeanLouiseFinch new here might consider that fact! My question is valid. To go on and on repeating the same behavior after individuals (Sick To Death) @Susan Louise pushing dangerous carnivor, and you keto "YouTube" will continue calling you out. Keep in mind you're neither physicians should not proclaim "carnivore or keto" medically sound choices. Your last paragraph, plenty of people eat (once a day) means nothing. So what! Plenty of people shouldn't drive intoxicated, yet everyday get into vehicles placing their lives in harms way and others.To use that reason for unhealthy lifestyle not only irresponsible, and dangerous. But, then again carnivore lifestyle keto lifestyle are extreme no surprise then followers are blinded with only extreme thinking.

In one breath, you accuse me of "continuing" a practice (your opinion) but then you say you're new here. Those two things don't add up. You accuse me of posting videos. I've done no such thing. If you think my lifestyle is irresponsible and dangerous, what's your source? Just saying something doesn't make it true. The ketogenic diet isn't a fad, it's been here for 100 years.

If the Standard American Diet pushed by dieticians, without regard for ingredients, is the best way to eat, why has Alzheimer's disease, dementia, etc. risen in our lifetime? Our brains are mostly made of fat, they thrive on using ketones derived from fat for fuel. Having siblings who have not cared about what they eat, they each have cognitive impairments now. I want to feed my brain the best I can. My lifestyle does that. Refined carbs are addictive. They don't satisfy for long so people tend to eat more and eat more often. Every time someone eats, insulin is triggered. Repeated demands for insulin multiple times a day eventually leads to insulin resistance. Research that. I used to eat that way and became prediabetic and insulin resistant but was able to reverse both. What I eat and when I eat, keeps insulin low and able to do its job when needed.

Trinity11 · ‎11-16-2014

I watched the video. Basically, two lay people discussing this guest's medical profile. His total cholesterol is near 400 and his LDL is heart attack level. He has a cardiologist but never says why. Correction...he suffers from cardiac arrhythmias and has worn a Holter monitor and adds other "stuff", his words. His kidney function is not optimum but he apparently has no idea how to actually read his labs. In fact he needed to Google to interpret them. Then he goes on to say he fired his doctor because he said his doctor doesn't have time to read some study he sent him.

The ignorance was shocking to me of just basic medical knowledge.

I will never understand how people allow themselves to follow YOUTUBE doctors and lay people profiting from their snake oil sales promotions. This stuff can actually KILL someone!!!!

Carmie · ‎10-25-2010

@Susan Louise wrote:
For those that don't understand...

Why am I so enthusiastic about sharing the carnivore lifestyle?

Because the benefits/results are just so astounding.

That is your experience. It Unfortunally wasn't mine.

Everyone is different. If you have kidney disease with no symptoms and go on that diet, you could cause yourself great harm.

For some people like me, I go into AFib.

I am not diabetic, have normal BP and take no meds except Vitamin D as prescribed by my doctor.

I cannot eat gluten, so a lot of food maked with grains are out. I haven't eaten any wheat for 41 years.

I would like to lose a few pounds, but low carb, Keto, Adkins and Carnivore would put my life in danger.

There would be zero benefits for me to eat a carnivore diet.

I don't understand why you're pushing this lifestyle. You could be putting someone's life in danger.

teganslaw · ‎03-11-2010

Some of the negativity about Carnivore diet could be eliminated if the OP admitted that the diet works great for her but might not be for everyone. Just saying that would be helpful for others. Everyone needs to find something that works for them instead of thinking that this lifestyle is good for everyone.

"The more I learn about people, the more I like my dog."

Mark Twain

I am still oxox · ‎03-09-2010

@Susan Louise wrote:
For those that don't understand...

Why am I so enthusiastic about sharing the carnivore lifestyle?

Because the benefits/results are just so astounding.

@Susan Louise And it gave my husband kidney stones so it is not good for everyone. You come off like an evangelical preacher with you claims

Stop being afraid of what could go wrong and start being positive what could go right.