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02-05-2018 06:54 PM
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02-05-2018 07:08 PM
" ....why did Natalie put on a down coat to go out to the dinghy? "
According to the Huffingtonpost updated Dec 06, 2017......
Bad weather was predicted for the night of November 28. A cold piercing rain swept over Isthmus Bay.
"Never argue with a fool. Onlookers may not be able to tell the difference."
02-05-2018 07:26 PM
I watched the 48 Hours presentation and I don't understand why Christopher Walken's interview is not being released. What he has to say about whether there were arguments, etc. would either validate what the captain is now saying, or not.
Also, one of the detectives did state that no charges can be brought against Robert Wagner for not assisting his wife, if he, in fact, knew she was in a perilous situation. Apparently there are no laws that people have to come to the aid of another person.
Memories are not reliable, especially after 36 or 37 years.
02-05-2018 08:11 PM
I watched a special show regarding Natalie Wood's life. It stated that the reason she and divorced him the first time they got married was that she found him in bed with another man.
When her family found out that she was going to marry him the second time around they thought she was crazy. She told them something like...at least the secrets are already out in the open.
I think the only people that really know what happened on that boat will take their secret to the grave. And already have taken the secret to the grave.
02-05-2018 08:35 PM
wrote:I have several observations. The first one is why did Natalie put on a down coat to go out to the dinghy? Was she preparing to go back to shore? Also, wasn't the dinghy found near her body? If so, looks like she did get into the dinghy to go somewhere--to escape??? Also, why didn't Wagner report she was missing immediately and also turn on the boat's lights to look for her?
I think there is much more to the story than her going out to stop the dinghy from banging against the boat. I don't think this is a true explanation as to why she was out there.
@fortune. You can't expect any of the principals to have done what was sensible and logical because they were drunk. Drunks don't use good judgment (hence all the drunk driving) and don't perform logically the way a sober person would. Granted, Wagner's actions were suspicious but due to his condition he may have a good excuse. He probably also can use that as a reason for not "remembering" a lot of what happened.
02-05-2018 08:46 PM
wrote:I have several observations. The first one is why did Natalie put on a down coat to go out to the dinghy? Was she preparing to go back to shore? Also, wasn't the dinghy found near her body? If so, looks like she did get into the dinghy to go somewhere--to escape??? Also, why didn't Wagner report she was missing immediately and also turn on the boat's lights to look for her?
I think there is much more to the story than her going out to stop the dinghy from banging against the boat. I don't think this is a true explanation as to why she was out there.
@fortune I believe it was a cold, rainy night which is why Natalie would have put a jacket on. On 48 hours, it was stated by the Captain that the dinghy was tied securely to the boat, so it would not have been banging around, and as her sister said, the Captain would have attended to it if it had been, seems logical that she would have told him to do it, but we will never know.
I think Wagner is highly suspicious, but nothing will be done to him at this point. He was the last person to see Natalie alive,was fighting with Natalie, refused the Captain's suggestion to turn on the search lights, what harm could that have done, no harm, but could have been helpful, told everyone to have the same story, and didn't report Natalie missing until 5:00 AM, who wouldn't be suspicious with this knowledge, I wonder.
02-05-2018 11:21 PM
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wrote:I have several observations. The first one is why did Natalie put on a down coat to go out to the dinghy? Was she preparing to go back to shore? Also, wasn't the dinghy found near her body? If so, looks like she did get into the dinghy to go somewhere--to escape??? Also, why didn't Wagner report she was missing immediately and also turn on the boat's lights to look for her?
I think there is much more to the story than her going out to stop the dinghy from banging against the boat. I don't think this is a true explanation as to why she was out there.
@fortune. You can't expect any of the principals to have done what was sensible and logical because they were drunk. Drunks don't use good judgment (hence all the drunk driving) and don't perform logically the way a sober person would. Granted, Wagner's actions were suspicious but due to his condition he may have a good excuse. He probably also can use that as a reason for not "remembering" a lot of what happened.
I agree that being drunk often alters behavior. However, if you knew that your wife or husband was drowning, being drunk wouldn't keep you from calling for help and trying to find him or her. Just sayin. . .
02-05-2018 11:25 PM
wrote:I didn't watch 48 Hours. From what I remember when it happened I think they all had been drinking but I may be wrong about that. I don't think this is anything more that a tragic accident. I think he loved her and I think she loved him. It is sad.
If he loved her, why didn't he look for her and call for help?
02-06-2018 12:13 AM
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wrote:I have several observations. The first one is why did Natalie put on a down coat to go out to the dinghy? Was she preparing to go back to shore? Also, wasn't the dinghy found near her body? If so, looks like she did get into the dinghy to go somewhere--to escape??? Also, why didn't Wagner report she was missing immediately and also turn on the boat's lights to look for her?
I think there is much more to the story than her going out to stop the dinghy from banging against the boat. I don't think this is a true explanation as to why she was out there.
@fortune. You can't expect any of the principals to have done what was sensible and logical because they were drunk. Drunks don't use good judgment (hence all the drunk driving) and don't perform logically the way a sober person would. Granted, Wagner's actions were suspicious but due to his condition he may have a good excuse. He probably also can use that as a reason for not "remembering" a lot of what happened.
I agree that being drunk often alters behavior. However, if you knew that your wife or husband was drowning, being drunk wouldn't keep you from calling for help and trying to find him or her. Just sayin. . .
@fortune. I can think of a number of reasons why he might not have called, like incapable of dialing a phone or not wanting to be seen by police in his drunken state. We have no way of knowing what his true feelings for his wife were. They were heard to be fighting.
02-06-2018 12:45 AM
It happened in 1981, so I doubt there was a phone onboard the boat, but certainly there was a marine radio to call the Coast Guard or Harbormaster on.
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