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02-05-2018 06:00 PM
I have several observations. The first one is why did Natalie put on a down coat to go out to the dinghy? Was she preparing to go back to shore? Also, wasn't the dinghy found near her body? If so, looks like she did get into the dinghy to go somewhere--to escape??? Also, why didn't Wagner report she was missing immediately and also turn on the boat's lights to look for her?
I think there is much more to the story than her going out to stop the dinghy from banging against the boat. I don't think this is a true explanation as to why she was out there.
02-05-2018 06:11 PM - edited 02-05-2018 06:12 PM
I watched this the other day. I'll tell ya - this new investigation is interesting.
Of course, it's all circumstantial stuff but there is a fair amount of it and even if most of the people with statements were telling the truth - it looks much different than I thought it was.
They've been on this investigation since 2011 which, probably, everybody but me already knew. But just learning it there, I was very surprised at the extent of material they now have.
02-05-2018 06:13 PM
wrote:I have several observations. The first one is why did Natalie put on a down coat to go out to the dinghy? Was she preparing to go back to shore? Also, wasn't the dinghy found near her body? If so, looks like she did get into the dinghy to go somewhere--to escape??? Also, why didn't Wagner report she was missing immediately and also turn on the boat's lights to look for her?
I think there is much more to the story than her going out to stop the dinghy from banging against the boat. I don't think this is a true explanation as to why she was out there.
I didn't realize Natalie was wearing a down coat. (I missed that part). I've been following this from the beginning.
All the people on the boat, including Natalie were drunk. That accounts for a lot, I think.
I don't think there was any foul play whatsoever.
02-05-2018 06:17 PM
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wrote:I have several observations. The first one is why did Natalie put on a down coat to go out to the dinghy? Was she preparing to go back to shore? Also, wasn't the dinghy found near her body? If so, looks like she did get into the dinghy to go somewhere--to escape??? Also, why didn't Wagner report she was missing immediately and also turn on the boat's lights to look for her?
I think there is much more to the story than her going out to stop the dinghy from banging against the boat. I don't think this is a true explanation as to why she was out there.
I didn't realize Natalie was wearing a down coat. (I missed that part). I've been following this from the beginning.
All the people on the boat, including Natalie were drunk. That accounts for a lot, I think.
I don't think there was any foul play whatsoever.
I remember them saying that the coat helped pull her down because when it became wet, it became heavy. She was so beautiful, very sad story.
02-05-2018 06:26 PM
Then how do you explain he didn't look for her? Didn't even turn on the lights. Very unconcerned since it was common knowledge to everyone especially her family she was afraid of the water and couldn't swim. I think she would have asked the Captain to take her to shore if that was her intention. As far as the dingy making noise against the boat I think she would have asked the Captain to secure it she would consider that his job not hers. I think a lot is left unexplained in her death.
02-05-2018 06:35 PM
wrote:Then how do you explain he didn't look for her? Didn't even turn on the lights. Very unconcerned since it was common knowledge to everyone especially her family she was afraid of the water and couldn't swim. I think she would have asked the Captain to take her to shore if that was her intention. As far as the dingy making noise against the boat I think she would have asked the Captain to secure it she would consider that his job not hers. I think a lot is left unexplained in her death.
Great questions! If she was scared, she may have not had time to find the captain and ask him to take her to shore. The captain certainly had a variety of "stories!"
02-05-2018 06:40 PM
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wrote:I have several observations. The first one is why did Natalie put on a down coat to go out to the dinghy? Was she preparing to go back to shore? Also, wasn't the dinghy found near her body? If so, looks like she did get into the dinghy to go somewhere--to escape??? Also, why didn't Wagner report she was missing immediately and also turn on the boat's lights to look for her?
I think there is much more to the story than her going out to stop the dinghy from banging against the boat. I don't think this is a true explanation as to why she was out there.
I didn't realize Natalie was wearing a down coat. (I missed that part). I've been following this from the beginning.
All the people on the boat, including Natalie were drunk. That accounts for a lot, I think.
I don't think there was any foul play whatsoever.
One of the key factors is that everyone was inebriated and for that reason, I don't think there was any intentional foul play.
Years ago, I remember reading an interview with Walken where he stated that Robert Wagner became very jealous when he and Natalie were talking, and Wagner proceeded to smash a bottle of wine.
As you know, over indulging in alcohol gravely alters one's thinking and judgment. Unfortunately, I don't think we'll ever know exactly what occurred.
02-05-2018 06:43 PM - edited 02-05-2018 07:02 PM
Too many years have passed. The investigation should have been done ASAP. We will never know what really happened.
I remember the Captain saying Natalie and Robert had a loud argument over her interest, real or not for Christopher Walken, who was also on board that night.
there is also speculation that Robert and Christopher were together that night and Natalie walked in on them.
Either way, there was a big fight over something involving Christopher.
02-05-2018 06:43 PM
I didn't watch 48 Hours. From what I remember when it happened I think they all had been drinking but I may be wrong about that. I don't think this is anything more that a tragic accident. I think he loved her and I think she loved him. It is sad.
02-05-2018 06:48 PM - edited 02-05-2018 06:56 PM
Robert Wagner never explained why he didn't turn on the search lights or call for help right away, saying to wait, especially like others said that he knew how much she was afraid of the water.
Witnesses said they had seen Natalie going to shore on the dinghy before this but they didn't say if the captain was with her.
I'm thinking he was.
I think the captain saying Wagner advised them all to have the same story seems credible.
I don't know, I'm not a body profiler or anything but the way he kept glancing to the side and the way he talked about it with interviewers, sounding to me like an observer of someone he knew rather than someone he "loved" very much just didnt ring true, his story of it all.
He changed his story about smashing the wine bottle in anger.
True he may have been embarassed about his anger issue but it seems he was very angry at her and she at him.
If he is charged with anything I was thinking it might be negligable homicide in that he did nothing to save her when he could have.
But I was so surprised to hear the investigator say, no, someone cannot be charged for not helping!
one of the most sinister things was, if he is to be believed, the captain said there was shouting and loud arguing and then everything was quiet.
Was she knocked out and then put in the dinghy?
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