Q Talk

[Gkhm]

Who finally helped Courtney with her pronunciation of "OCHRE"?  I noticed it was correct the last time I heard her.  Good job!

[skatting44]

@Gkhm 

  now she needs help with  pronouncing  Gardenia ( gaar -dee- nyuh ) 

instead of Gar-den-ya

SK needs help with Camelia ( kuh-mee-lee-uh ) . Noticed that during Tatcha  show she presented

[Imaoldhippie]

Who cares?

[depglass]

I don't particularly care about these specific "errors," but I am concerned about the gradual deterioration of the English language in general.  I am a compulsive "proof reader" while listening to TV.  What bugs me most is subject-object agreement.  "They sent that letter to both Sam and I."  It's Sam and me.  Take out the named person, "they sent that letter to me": not "they sent that letter to I. Too picky?  All I can say is a couple English teachers in heaven are smiling down on me.  Eventually we will all be communicating and spelling at a first grade level.

[Patriot3]

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@depglass wrote:

I don't particularly care about these specific "errors," but I am concerned about the gradual deterioration of the English language in general.  I am a compulsive "proof reader" while listening to TV.  What bugs me most is subject-object agreement.  "They sent that letter to both Sam and I."  It's Sam and me.  Take out the named person, "they sent that letter to me": not "they sent that letter to I. Too picky?  All I can say is a couple English teachers in heaven are smiling down on me.  Eventually we will all be communicating and spelling at a first grade level.

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 @depglass  Oh my gosh, you took the words right out of my mouth!  I had an old spinster for an English teacher and she was a stickler.  Thanks to her, I learned a lot and now I cringe at how the English language has been butchered!!  And spelling, too!  I do the same thing at the TV!

[Sooner]

For many years, proof reading was part of my job.  Lucky for me howeve, it is something I can turn on and off.  When I am reading for me, for information or pleasure, I rarely see mistakes. 

I would hate to go through life picking out mistakes when I read.  I love reading too much!  I should apply that to people too. . . 

[on the bay]

Well jeez, I always prounounced it wrong too, as if it was a french word-like o kra.

But even though its prounounced differently in Britain and the US and France, I guess no country pronounces it like I always have. Oh well. ( I still like the way I say it best!😄)

[1OldBroad]

I am in total agreement.   I hear misuse of English language all the time -- on the news, on shopping channels, talk shows, friends, etc.  I bite my tongue as I do not want to offend someone by correcting them.  I wonder how English is being taught in schools now.   

[tends2dogs]

With all the new "curriculum" being allowed in the schools today, I doubt they get to English, spelling and grammar.  They have already left cursive by the wayside.

[millieshops]

At the very least, any language used my many people changes, and it changes much more and much faster now than ever before in history.  

But some of what we were taught in HS in my day was already out of date by the time I was a college freshman.  I know that because on one of the early papers my first writing teacher returned to me, he had written a suggestion I should get a copy of Strunk and White's Elements of Style. 

I have absolutely no idea what the assignment had been, but I do know that "It is I" had already changed to "It is me" except in the very most formal of uses.  That was 1959;  English had already changed dramatically in the centuries since Shakespeare wrote, but changes that took centuries then happen seemingly overnight now.