Re: here we go again at CBS

RoughDraft · ‎03-09-2010

@lovesallanimals wrote:
OK ladies, please stop "ganging up" on me. Maybe I did not explain it correctly but I did not mean that anyone should walk away without reporting it. Of course you should say something, absolutely. What I was trying to say was that when Weinstein, for example, opens up his hotel room and is standing there naked in his bathrobe and asks you to you know what, I would immediately and I mean immediately get the heck out of there. I would then report it. If no one believed me, or if nothing was done at that time and I had to work with this man, I would find another job. End of story. I was propositioned by a very, very, senior guy who was making a fortune for an investment bank I worked in. They wanted me to work with him as they thought I could handle him (he had a "reputation"). I firmly said no way would I work with him. My feelings were respected and I wound up working with a terrific guy.

@lovesallanimals

No one's ganging up on you. Your further explanation of the story only shows that you were fortunate enough in this instance to have a choice of working or not working with a pig who had a "reputation." The fact of the matter is if he already had this reputation he should have been fired and not left to prey on other unsuspecting women.

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santorini · ‎03-09-2010

I agree that it has gone too far. It's now considered cool to report anyone who ever even tossed a suggestive look your way. I was hit on plenty and never reported it. No one attacked me so no harm, no foul. Nowadays with all of the lawsuits and tv reports, everyone walks around like zombies in offices - afraid to even say "I love your dress" or "you look so pretty today" because God forbid, that may bring about a firing or a lawsuit.

bathina · ‎03-14-2010

@santorini wrote:
I agree that it has gone too far. It's now considered cool to report anyone who ever even tossed a suggestive look your way. I was hit on plenty and never reported it. No one attacked me so no harm, no foul. Nowadays with all of the lawsuits and tv reports, everyone walks around like zombies in offices - afraid to even say "I love your dress" or "you look so pretty today" because God forbid, that may bring about a firing or a lawsuit.

I can assure you there is nothing "cool" about reporting a harasser. In fact, it's terrifying. No woman wants to risk her career, her network, her income, her reputation because something is "cool". Men in power don't need to be commenting on your looks or your dress in a professional environment. The conversation should be about your work and your performance.

mom2four0418 · ‎04-23-2010

@lovesallanimals wrote:
OK ladies, please stop "ganging up" on me. Maybe I did not explain it correctly but I did not mean that anyone should walk away without reporting it. Of course you should say something, absolutely. What I was trying to say was that when Weinstein, for example, opens up his hotel room and is standing there naked in his bathrobe and asks you to you know what, I would immediately and I mean immediately get the heck out of there. I would then report it. If no one believed me, or if nothing was done at that time and I had to work with this man, I would find another job. End of story. I was propositioned by a very, very, senior guy who was making a fortune for an investment bank I worked in. They wanted me to work with him as they thought I could handle him (he had a "reputation"). I firmly said no way would I work with him. My feelings were respected and I wound up working with a terrific guy.

Expressing a different perspective is not "ganging up" on you. I am not sure what being "hit on" involved in your case, but not reporting the situation may have allowed your colleagues to continue to harass other women. We all chose different ways to react to harassers/assaulters and it had nothing to do with being highly educated or having self-respect. The only people who should be judged are the harassers.

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DiAnne · ‎09-22-2010

There are probably a lot of women who are in stable lives that do not want to come out with their story because of children or spouse. What is that old saying "the tip of the iceberg"?

ms traditional · ‎03-09-2010

@ValuSkr wrote:
By my count, that makes three, including Charlie Rose and Les Moonves. Have any other CBS men had to leave?

i believe that is correct - there is a law firm that has been examining goings on at CBS over the years since March after Rose firing and has yet to deliver results as far as i know. @ValuSkr

ms traditional · ‎03-09-2010

there are statements from CBS that his F's firing isn't necessarily associated with Moonves' problems. F has defiinitely had his name come up in relationship to charges in this area according to past reporting.

dooBdoo · ‎06-27-2010

@ms traditional wrote:
there are statements from CBS that his F's firing isn't necessarily associated with Moonves' problems. F has defiinitely had his name come up in relationship to charges in this area according to past reporting.

This excerpt is an example of what I've read about this, @ms traditional:

"NEW YORK — Jeff F-ger, the longtime executive producer of "60 Minutes" who was fired on Wednesday, sent a text message to CBS News correspondent Jericka Duncan with a warning over the network's coverage of the sexual harassment accusations against him.

On Sunday, Duncan reached out to F-ger for his response to allegations in The New Yorker that he had groped or touched CBS employees at company parties.

"If you repeat these false accusations without any of your own reporting to back them up you will be held responsible for harming me," F-ger replied. "Be careful. There are people who lost their jobs trying to harm me and if you pass on these damaging claims without your own reporting to back them up that will become a serious problem."

CBS News president David Rhodes announced Wednesday that F-ger was leaving the company effective immediately, saying he had violated company policy. F-ger said in a statement that his contract was terminated early "because I sent a text message to one of our own CBS reporters demanding that she be fair in covering the story." He did not name Duncan.

"My language was harsh and, despite the fact that journalists receive harsh demands for fairness all the time, CBS did not like it," F-ger said. "One such note should not result in termination after 36 years, but it did."... "

(Find complete article by searching for title "Fired "60 Minutes" boss warned CBS News reporter: "There are people who've lost their jobs trying to harm me")

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ms traditional · ‎03-09-2010

@dooBdoo yes that is the statement. what has preceded it is his name also in the context of inappropriate behavior towards women at work brought out in press reports. it may be that those allegations are still under investigation.