Community Chat

[ms traditional]

as hinted at a few days ago 60 Minutes producer Jeff F-ager is out for inappropriate behavior.  his name had been mentioned earlier in The New Yorker and WaPo and Page Six.  there had been comments about such a "culture" there and it seems they are excising it.

[puttypiesmom]

Glad to hear that he's out.  I don't want anyone who is in a position of power over another's career to get away with misconduct of any kind. All tv networks and all type of industries need to root these people out.  

[lovesallanimals]

ok, please do not misconstrue what I am about to write, it is just my opinion and it has been bothering me lately.  It goes without saying that any kind of abuse, whether physical or mental is wrong and should never be excused or tolerated in any way.  However, what bothers me when I read the many stories of the women who have come forward is why they just didn't walk away as soon as they were propositioned.  One of the woman from CBS stated that she gave in as she was afraid to lose her job.  I am a woman, and a baby boomer.  When  I worked on Wall St. during the late 60s, into the 70s and 80s it was exactly like Mad Men.  I was hit on plenty of times and I just told them NO! and that was the end of it.  I can see if you are a woman, maybe have children, no husband, etc.  and really need the money but these women could have just walked away and said to h-ll with the job.  They were educated women.  I always said to my co-workers that I would rather scrub toilets (no shame in being a cleaning woman, it is honest work) than be forced into situations that were not acceptable.   It is called self-respect.  

[puttypiesmom]

@lovesallanimals  I'm not sure that your situation was the same as the other women who were afraid of losing their jobs, title, money, raises, etc.

Any man who puts a woman in a situation like that should be reported because though in your case, saying no didn't affect your employment status their behavior needed to stop.

Many women are afraid of retaliation and harassment by reporting these men, whether the retaliation is at work or from stalking them at home.  

[puttypiesmom]

Also wanted to say that "walking away" from a good job is not only unfair to the woman but doesn't solve the issue for the next woman who has to put up with it. 

[MoJoV]

Why should a woman have to "walk away" from a job she loves,earned and is good at?  Because someone with power over her decides to use it in bullying and worse ways?  H*ll with that.  Good riddance to all the scumbags.

[bonnielu]

@lovesallanimals  I am with you.  Why not when it happened.  Did they benefit in some way.   Why now?  The IN thing to do and say but not when it happened.  

Honestly I would have walked out from the get-go.  

And the more women that report the horrible situation  LATER rather than a the exact moment are hurting women such that no one will believe them if it becomes a line waiting to tell. 

[ValuSkr]

By my count, that makes three, including Charlie Rose and Les Moonves.  Have any other CBS men had to leave?

[bonnielu]

Reading carefully the rest of the answers... reporting immediately might put you out on the street or someone might have listened.  But times are changing.  It is now the IN thing to report.  Then it was risking your job. Cannot really solve this one because choices may be an option that had to be carefully thought out based on the times, sadly

[Diva on The Q]

@lovesallanimals:  I really do understand what you are saying. But, I think it's important to consider that not all women can be as strong as you were in this situation. And, because a woman may not be as strong, we shouldn't hold it against them.