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[sunshine45]

@Ms tyrion2  those figures that you say you heard may have included those persons on the cruise ship and from china that  have been repatriated.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-in-us.html

per the CDC update today 2/28/20:

COVID-19: Confirmed and Presumptive Positive Cases in the United States*

* This table represents cases detected and tested in the United States through U.S. public health surveillance systems since January 21, 2020. It does not include people who returned to the U.S. via State Department-chartered flights.

** A presumptive positive case has tested positive by a public health laboratory and is pending confirmatory testing at CDC.

COVID-19: Cases among Persons Repatriated to the United States

COVID-19: Cases among Persons Repatriated to the United States†  Positive

Wuhan, China	3
Diamond Princess Cruise Ship†	44

† Cases have laboratory confirmation and may or may not have been symptomatic.

COVID-19: Confirmed Cases in the United States*†  Confirmed Presumptive Positive**

Travel-related	12	0
Person-to-person spread	3	0
Total confirmed cases	15	0
Total tested	459	N/A

[Gorgf]

I talked with a GF who is buying more masks!! Her husband has a cough and had the flu which she in turn also  got pneumonia in Jan.She said another bout of the usual flu is going around again according to the Pharmacist she talked to. 

She knew what drugstore to buy them at and was stocking up. "Oh Brother"

[pitdakota]

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@Moonlady wrote:
@haddon9

While what you say about COVID is true, the "many" who have died is relative. The fact is, it's a miniscule number of the number of people affected. The mortality rate for these diseases is not only low, but it's also lower here than in many other countries, including China.

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@Moonlady 

Coronavirus has 7 times the fatality rate as the flu.

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This morning the new reported that the current flu strain had a death rate a little over 2 % while the coroniavirus was just over 1%.   Would like to know where you got 7  higher.

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I would certainly question those numbers.  They

generally consider case fatality rates for influenza to be anywhere from 0.1-0.3%.  The last really large pandemic of influenza was H1N1 in 2009.  That ended up with a case fatality rate of 0.03%.

While numbers will change on a daily basis with case fatality rate for COVID-19 since it is an emerging disease, it ranges currently around 3-4%.

Here is an article I posted  that was published in a peer reviewed medical journal comparing this coronavirus to other emerging viruses in the past.  Table 1 identifies the case fatality rate for numbers they had at the time of publication for nCoV-2019 that also gives the case fatality rates for other emerging diseases in the past, including 2009 H1N1.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1286457920300265 

One can google:  Pathogenicity and transmissibility of 2019-nCoV-A quick review and comparison and it will probably come up.  It is published in the journal Microbes and Infection.

While we are always concerned about flu, I don't know where anyone is getting information that as of where we stand today that flu has a higher fatality rate over COVID-19?  

I leave this to the experts that are on the ground tracking diseases and compiling information for analysis. 

[JYWilliams]

No not yet.

[JaneMarple]

From NBC news a few minutes ago. California patient could be second coronavirus case with unknown source

The newly announced case of coronavirus found in Santa Clara County, California, has no known source of infection, the county health department said on Friday. This is second case in the U.S. with an unclear origin. The first was also in northern California.

[MorningLover]

Sad news..

Longtime Cleveland Clinic Ohio cardiologist, Dr. David Taylor died February 5th from a complication of influenza.

The doctor had received his flu vaccine, but unfortunately the vaccine is not 100% effective and the 60 year old physician succumbed to a rare infection from the illness.

He was also a professor at the Cleveland Clinic Lerner College of Medicine, Case Western Reserve University and a former Director of the Heart Failure and Transplantation Fellowship.

Last week, the Cuyahoga County Ohio , Board of Health announced five flu related deaths. The total number of flu related deaths this season is 14 in the county, which is slightly below the five year median.

[RainCityWoman]

I have risk factors: asthma, diabetic. However, I'm not purchasing anything. I'm just trying to go about my life, wash my hands a lot, and hope to keep from touching my face near my eyes, mouth, and nose as I am out in public. What else can I do? I take this seriously. It's no hoax, despite what "certain" people would lead us to believe. Look at the stats worldwide. I'm sure the families of those who have died don't see it as a hoax either. There will always be new strains of bugs that travel the world, and we all have to be diligent in protecting ourselves as best we can. I am fortunate to live in a city with proactive state of the art medicine. If I get it, my faith will be in them. My state had one of the first comfirmed cases, and he has finally left the hospital. We have new cases today, this time not people who have traveled.

[RainCityWoman]

My neighbor's husband contracted Influenza A and Pneumonia on a business trip to Texas a few weeks ago. He is compromised as he is a quad in a wheelchair with limited use of his hands and paralyzed in his legs. His wife is a OB/GYN nurse. She took care of him during his illness, but she was taking Tamiflu the whole time. She did not get the flu. She was proactive with him and with herself the minute he became ill. I think that's the key to it.

[JaneMarple]

BREAKING: First U.S. death from coronavirus reported in Washington state Health officials in Washington state on Saturday announced that a person with COVID-19 has died, the first death from the coronavirus illness in the U.S. The death was reported in King County.

[sunshine 919]

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@red&curly wrote:
No cause sure as I buy a mask or something else, they will say "those don't work..need so & so"

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A doctor on the View yesterday said the masks the people are wearing will not work.  For a mask to work it has to be fitted to you.   There are gaps in the ones people are wearing.

I was in line at walmart yesterday there was an older lady in front of me who purchased 152.00 worth of can goods.  Not sure if this was her usual.  I usually talk to everybody lol but I decided not to ask her.  I have not seen anyone purchase that many can goods.  Shelves were stocked though.