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@chrystaltree wrote:

@bathina wrote:
@funinthesunthe police told you she wouldn't answer citizenship questions? Interesting.

 

Good for her!!  He isn't INS, he was dealing with a traffic accident and he had no reason to inquire about citizienship.  License and registration was all he needed.  


 


So why should the police be allowed to ask for a driver's license?  If it's fine to break the law by being here illegally - and you agree that it's no one's business, then why should breaking the law by driving illegally be of concern either?

 

It's simply an "undocumented" driver.   See how that works.

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@Isobel Archer wrote:

@chrystaltree wrote:

@bathina wrote:
@funinthesunthe police told you she wouldn't answer citizenship questions? Interesting.

 

Good for her!!  He isn't INS, he was dealing with a traffic accident and he had no reason to inquire about citizienship.  License and registration was all he needed.  


 


So why should the police be allowed to ask for a driver's license?  If it's fine to break the law by being here illegally - and you agree that it's no one's business, then why should breaking the law by driving illegally be of concern either?

 

It's simply an "undocumented" driver.   See how that works.


Because determining citizenship is not the job of police. Traffic "crimes" are. 

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In Massachusetts if you have a passport you can drive without a license, and having to pass a driving course to learn the rules of regarding how to drive.

 

Why get a license, or insurance, or whatever when the courts protect them and the citizen is left with the burden.

 

 

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@bathina wrote:

@hckynut wrote:

 

@sunshine45 

 

I remember, and wish for the days, where Law Enforcement had no reason to ask the citizenship question because of language. You were not a legal US Citizen unless you could speak English. Nowadays!   (;-(

 

 

 

hckynut


This is a LIE. Every applicant for citizenship needs to pass 3 different English tests. 

Why LIE?


LYING is perfectly acceptable for some people pushing an agenda.

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@chiclets wrote:

In Massachusetts if you have a passport you can drive without a license, and having to pass a driving course to learn the rules of regarding how to drive.

 

Why get a license, or insurance, or whatever when the courts protect them and the citizen is left with the burden.

 

 


Protect who? There are millions of people here who are not citizens. They work here  and pay taxes here. Are we supposed to not let them drive?  Massachusetts has many elite universities and hospitals. Students and researchers come from all over the world to study and work. Is that the "them" you are talking about?

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@bathina wrote:

@Isobel Archer wrote:

@chrystaltree wrote:

@bathina wrote:
@funinthesunthe police told you she wouldn't answer citizenship questions? Interesting.

 

Good for her!!  He isn't INS, he was dealing with a traffic accident and he had no reason to inquire about citizienship.  License and registration was all he needed.  


 


So why should the police be allowed to ask for a driver's license?  If it's fine to break the law by being here illegally - and you agree that it's no one's business, then why should breaking the law by driving illegally be of concern either?

 

It's simply an "undocumented" driver.   See how that works.


Because determining citizenship is not the job of police. Traffic "crimes" are. 


But apparently being here illegally  means you are not subject to our laws.  

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@mom2four0418 wrote:

@bathina wrote:

@hckynut wrote:

 

@sunshine45 

 

I remember, and wish for the days, where Law Enforcement had no reason to ask the citizenship question because of language. You were not a legal US Citizen unless you could speak English. Nowadays!   (;-(

 

 

 

hckynut


This is a LIE. Every applicant for citizenship needs to pass 3 different English tests. 

Why LIE?


LYING is perfectly acceptable for some people pushing an agenda.


Thank you! I'm sick of it. It's not fake news. It's not alternative facts, it just lies. If the truth is really on your side, why make things up?

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@Isobel Archer wrote:

@bathina wrote:

@Isobel Archer wrote:

@chrystaltree wrote:

@bathina wrote:
@funinthesunthe police told you she wouldn't answer citizenship questions? Interesting.

 

Good for her!!  He isn't INS, he was dealing with a traffic accident and he had no reason to inquire about citizienship.  License and registration was all he needed.  


 


So why should the police be allowed to ask for a driver's license?  If it's fine to break the law by being here illegally - and you agree that it's no one's business, then why should breaking the law by driving illegally be of concern either?

 

It's simply an "undocumented" driver.   See how that works.


Because determining citizenship is not the job of police. Traffic "crimes" are. 


But apparently being here illegally  means you are not subject to our laws.  


I have no idea what this means.

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@bathina wrote:

@Isobel Archer wrote:

@bathina wrote:

@Isobel Archer wrote:

@chrystaltree wrote:

@bathina wrote:
@funinthesunthe police told you she wouldn't answer citizenship questions? Interesting.

 

Good for her!!  He isn't INS, he was dealing with a traffic accident and he had no reason to inquire about citizienship.  License and registration was all he needed.  


 


So why should the police be allowed to ask for a driver's license?  If it's fine to break the law by being here illegally - and you agree that it's no one's business, then why should breaking the law by driving illegally be of concern either?

 

It's simply an "undocumented" driver.   See how that works.


Because determining citizenship is not the job of police. Traffic "crimes" are. 


But apparently being here illegally  means you are not subject to our laws.  


I have no idea what this means.


Seriously?  What part of being here illegally is unclear?  We recently had a situation here in VA where the police in dealing with an "undocumented" person in a traffic accident found he also had an outstanding warrent for arrest and a deportation order.  The police officer was suspended for arresting him and turning him over to ICE.

 

Sounds to me as if this person is not subject to our laws.  

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Are you guys trying to get this thread poofed? Yuck.

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