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[ThinkingOutLoud]

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@jonbon wrote:

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@hckynutjohn wrote:

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@jonbon wrote:

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@hckynutjohn wrote:

@gertrudecloset 

This from the same one that signed banning the sale of gas powered vehicles in 2035. And the same one the urged residents not to charge their EV during certain hours, turn your AC up/5 minute showers, etc etc.

Nothing from him shocks me anymore, just another 🤔

hckynut  🇺🇸

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Speaking as a Californian, he beats the heck out of the alternatives in several other states right now! Might I add … you'll notice this did not originate in California; it is already legal in a few other states.

@jonbon 

Guess those states didn't make the news, or at least I didn't see or hear about it. 

No power grid that is struggling now to supply the necessary power, with about 1% being an EV? Better figure out how to improve the power grid before passing any laws about banning sales of naturally aspirated internal combustion engines.

I am far away from the state he rules, and if you are happy with him? Doubt many other states would try to pry him away. My state sure won't. 

hckynut(john)🥅🏒 🇺🇸

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The other states are listed prominently in the original post … And, yes, I would rather have someone like Newsom than any number of other possibilities currently making news in other states. You do your state, and I'll do mine.

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So pointing out hypocrisy is worse than actual hypocrisy. Interesting.

[Greeneyedlady21]

Political posts aren't allowed here, or at least they didn't used to be. Now with far less moderation certain posters always seem to always take advantage of that.

[vermint]

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@Tinkrbl44 wrote:

Here's another wrinkle ......   

In regular, traditional cemetaries, the coffins can still deteriorate significantly .... they leak and the formaldehyde used to preserve the body suddenly is in the ground, and can affect the water table .... and the water we drink.  

Not a very pleasant thought.  

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@Tinkrbl44 I thought the purpose of concrete burial vaults was to prevent this.  They may not be required everywhere, though, I don't know. I have never been to an in-ground burial where the coffin was not lowered into a vault, which is then covered with a lid, before the sod is replaced.

[jonbon]

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@ThinkingOutLoud wrote:

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@jonbon wrote:

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@hckynutjohn wrote:

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@jonbon wrote:

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@hckynutjohn wrote:

@gertrudecloset 

This from the same one that signed banning the sale of gas powered vehicles in 2035. And the same one the urged residents not to charge their EV during certain hours, turn your AC up/5 minute showers, etc etc.

Nothing from him shocks me anymore, just another 🤔

hckynut  🇺🇸

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Speaking as a Californian, he beats the heck out of the alternatives in several other states right now! Might I add … you'll notice this did not originate in California; it is already legal in a few other states.

@jonbon 

Guess those states didn't make the news, or at least I didn't see or hear about it. 

No power grid that is struggling now to supply the necessary power, with about 1% being an EV? Better figure out how to improve the power grid before passing any laws about banning sales of naturally aspirated internal combustion engines.

I am far away from the state he rules, and if you are happy with him? Doubt many other states would try to pry him away. My state sure won't. 

hckynut(john)🥅🏒 🇺🇸

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The other states are listed prominently in the original post … And, yes, I would rather have someone like Newsom than any number of other possibilities currently making news in other states. You do your state, and I'll do mine.

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So pointing out hypocrisy is worse than actual hypocrisy. Interesting.

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Don't know what you're talking about. I simply said I would rather have someone with his progressive views leading (not "ruling") my state than some of the alternatives making news elsewhere.

[Tinkrbl44]

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@vermint wrote:

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@Tinkrbl44 wrote:

Here's another wrinkle ......   

In regular, traditional cemetaries, the coffins can still deteriorate significantly .... they leak and the formaldehyde used to preserve the body suddenly is in the ground, and can affect the water table .... and the water we drink.  

Not a very pleasant thought.  

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@Tinkrbl44 I thought the purpose of concrete burial vaults was to prevent this.  They may not be required everywhere, though, I don't know. I have never been to an in-ground burial where the coffin was not lowered into a vault, which is then covered with a lid, before the sod is replaced.

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@vermint 

Concrete vaults can break down, crumble and leak.    While it can appear to be effective protection at the time of burial, surrounded by moist ground and the changing elements over time, I doubt they stay hermetically sealed. 

If we looked at the underground aging (no thank you!) of coffins, I doubt that burials done 40 or 50 years ago, or longer, are in such great shape.  JMO, of course. 

[vermint]

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@Tinkrbl44 wrote:

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@vermint wrote:

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@Tinkrbl44 wrote:

Here's another wrinkle ......   

In regular, traditional cemetaries, the coffins can still deteriorate significantly .... they leak and the formaldehyde used to preserve the body suddenly is in the ground, and can affect the water table .... and the water we drink.  

Not a very pleasant thought.  

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@Tinkrbl44 I thought the purpose of concrete burial vaults was to prevent this.  They may not be required everywhere, though, I don't know. I have never been to an in-ground burial where the coffin was not lowered into a vault, which is then covered with a lid, before the sod is replaced.

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@vermint 

Concrete vaults can break down, crumble and leak.    While it can appear to be effective protection at the time of burial, surrounded by moist ground and the changing elements over time, I doubt they stay hermetically sealed. 

If we looked at the underground aging (no thank you!) of coffins, I doubt that burials done 40 or 50 years ago, or longer, are in such great shape.  JMO, of course. 

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Good point! You'd think that fiberglass or some kind of plastic would be used these days---or maybe it is and I just haven't heard of it. Maybe kind of a strange analogy...but our old septic tank was concrete, and was replaced a few years ago with a fiberglass or plastic one. Much lighter weight, less expensive, and supposed to be a lot more durable!