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[Jdpic]

Yes,  when I think of protest these day, I also think of rioters and looters.  That part gets left out a lot by the political people here.  But I know what you mean.

I see one poster that every post could be considered political.

Come on.   The is a QVC message board.  Let's talk about Shawn and Jane at the beauty awards !  What was that Shawn was wearing.  That's a lot more interesting.

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@Johnnyeager wrote:

Some posters see politics in every single comment they read.  Sometimes a post is just a post.

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[RhondaRena]

The Progressive Farmer this morning has an interesting article on "Food Shortages Intensify" under " The Washington Insider Column".

[bigtraps]

THANK YOU.   YesYesYes.  

Some people forget they are on a QVC message board.  And the posting of private/personal information,  I really don't get that.

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@Jdpic wrote:

Yes,  when I think of protest these day, I also think of rioters and looters.  That part gets left out a lot by the political people here.  But I know what you mean.

I see one poster that every post could be considered political.

Come on.   The is a QVC message board.  Let's talk about Shawn and Jane at the beauty awards !  What was that Shawn was wearing.  That's a lot more interesting.

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@Johnnyeager wrote:

Some posters see politics in every single comment they read.  Sometimes a post is just a post.

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[aroc3435]

@RhondaRena   Thank you for referencing that article in Progressive Farmer--very insightful.  It seems a daunting task to better coordinate a substantive response that will be able to help people in need of food in a uniform way across the country.  

The transportation problem during this pandemic being a problem for people needing access to a food distribution point or center  makes sense, too.  As does the shortage of volunteers--many of whom are now in the high risk age group since they are seniors. 

In the Maryland, Virginia, DC area a lot of high school age folks have stepped up to help in many ways during these months.

aroc3435

Washington, DC

[suzyQ3]

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@Jdpic wrote:

Yes,  when I think of protest these day, I also think of rioters and looters.  That part gets left out a lot by the political people here.  But I know what you mean.

I see one poster that every post could be considered political.

Come on.   The is a QVC message board.  Let's talk about Shawn and Jane at the beauty awards !  What was that Shawn was wearing.  That's a lot more interesting.

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@Johnnyeager wrote:

Some posters see politics in every single comment they read.  Sometimes a post is just a post.

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@Jdpic, yet you apparently don't consider this statement political. Interesting.

[suzyQ3]

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@bigtraps wrote:

THANK YOU.   YesYesYes.  

Some people forget they are on a QVC message board.  And the posting of private/personal information,  I really don't get that.

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@Jdpic wrote:

Yes,  when I think of protest these day, I also think of rioters and looters.  That part gets left out a lot by the political people here.  But I know what you mean.

I see one poster that every post could be considered political.

Come on.   The is a QVC message board.  Let's talk about Shawn and Jane at the beauty awards !  What was that Shawn was wearing.  That's a lot more interesting.

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@Johnnyeager wrote:

Some posters see politics in every single comment they read.  Sometimes a post is just a post.

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No, @bigtraps, I guess you wouldn't understand any personal threads or posts, despite the idea of Community Chat and Among Friends.  Mocking others and derailing threads seems to be your comfort zone -- along with stalking.

[Porcelain]

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@Jdpic wrote:

Yes,  when I think of protest these day, I also think of rioters and looters.  That part gets left out a lot by the political people here.  But I know what you mean.

I see one poster that every post could be considered political.

Come on.   The is a QVC message board.  Let's talk about Shawn and Jane at the beauty awards !  What was that Shawn was wearing.  That's a lot more interesting.

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@Johnnyeager wrote:

Some posters see politics in every single comment they read.  Sometimes a post is just a post.

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What does any of this have to do with shortages at the grocery store? Talking about Shawn would be off topic in this thread. Please start a thread on whatever you want to talk about. Those who also want to talk with you about the beauty awards will meet you there.

[Jdpic]

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@Porcelain wrote:

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What does any of this have to do with shortages at the grocery store? Talking about Shawn would be off topic in this thread. Please start a thread on whatever you want to talk about. Those who also want to talk with you about the beauty awards will meet you there.

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My point exactly.  There are others that are constantly going off topic here.

[pitdakota]

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@Mominohio wrote:

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@pitdakota wrote:

There was an indepth article around 2 weeks ago in The Atlantic that discussed various shortages being experienced in the United States.

It was an interesting article and detailed the major issues and how they have somewhat combined in some cases to exacerbate problems companies were/are experiencing.

Of course it starts about how China was hit first and production lines abruptly stopped in that country.  Some U.S. companies  were able to quickly move to other suppliers in other countries such as Vietnam, India, etc.  But then those countries were hit and had to close their factories.  Just as we were facing shutdowns here, most of the countries abroad were still struggling with shutdowns.  There were instances in which some companies had inventory in warehouses, but it quickly dwindled.

Then there were problems with shipping.  I don't remember all the specifics but shipping companies needed to provide schedules for their employees on those ships and provide time off in their countries before doing another round of ocean travel.  Those countries then had quarantines so that the employees had to quarantine for longer periods of time than their break would have been without the pandemic.  That resulted in numerous countries not being able to drive ship traffic before the virus and produced a back log of being able to ship products.  In fact, it really didn't matter, most of them faced quarantine regulations no matter what country they would select to spend their required downtime before another trip.

In the U.S., companies might receive products but then there was a shortage of packaging supplies such as cardboard, plastic, etc.  So they had the product, but not enough materials for packaging.

Add to those problems that many factories faced having to operate with lower numbers of employees due to having contracted covid-19 or were in quarantine.  In some cases in order to space employees out, they had to reduce the number of employees in a certain area. 

They also discussed the problem with staffing at warehouses.  There were truckers that were able to deliver their product, but since warehouses were short on employees, there were long lines of trucks to offload their load due to the warehouses having fewer employees.

Then add severe weather conditions, hurricanes and fires into the mix and some problems were even further exacerbated.

It was a revealing article that the problems were multi-faceted and while getting better they are still not completely resolved.  So I don't think the total reason for shortages is due to people hoarding.

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I agree

The shortages are much much more involved than just people hoarding. 

Also, there has been at least one article/video out of Washington state that shows states are stocking up BIG TIME in huge warehouses, many of the things some people are finding short in some areas. If states are doing it, so probably are other agencies. 

And even people who aren't hoarding, are buying more than normal and buying things they might not normally buy just in case. All the media has to do is suggest that a particular medicine or vitamin/mineral aids in the virus, and the supply disappears. Or that there is or might be a shortage of paper towels, and they disappear.

People who would normally keep two rolls of paper towels or one large pack of toilet paper on hand, feel the need (because of past shortages and prospect of future issues) to maybe double or triple that  amount in their home. Hardly hoarding at that level, but multiply that by millions of people doing the same, and the results are more limited supplies on shelves.

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@Mominohio, add to that a fairly sizable number of people that are still working remotely from home.  At least in my area.  I have all kinds of neighbors that are still working remotely.  At least 2 have been told their jobs will now be remote on a permanent basis.

My former colleagues at the College of Nursing have been told to only report to the school when they have to be there to teach a class.  All meetings with other faculty and students are to be conducted remotely from their home.  That means they are spending quite a bit of time over the week working from home.

I have a very good friend that resides in another state.  She has 4 adult children and at least 8 grandchildren in school districts that were going back to in person schools.  Except that all 4 couples worked out other arrangements because they were not going to send their kids back to school.  They have the means to do that.  One is actually a doctor, so the mother actually quit her job and signed her children up to do online course work.  

Children entering a homeschool program increased exponentially in my state.  My county has not started in person classes yet.  Students in this county are still doing online school.

That jives with what I heard from a friend with a son that is a store manager of a local grocery store.  He told her he has never seen anything like this last so long.  They have trouble even keeping pizza kits and macaroni and cheese in stock and thinks it is due to so many kids being home. 

At any rate, all these factors play a role in the shortages we see so that it just doesn't suffice to only blame shortages on hoarding.