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Re: Paris Shooting and Bombing


@RoughDraft wrote:

Is anyone familiar with the voyage of the St. Louis back in 1939?


 

Yes. So incredibly sad.

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The Syrian refugees arrived last week in Louisiana.  Here is a letter from Gov Jindal.

 

http://www.katc.com/story/30519158/jindal-demands-answers-about-syrian-refugees-arriving-to-louisian...

 

 

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Re: Paris Shooting and Bombing


@Greenhouse wrote:

@Moonchilde wrote:

@Greenhouse wrote:

@Moonchilde wrote:

@Greenhouse wrote:

@sidsmom wrote:

@terrier3 wrote:

@Mominohio wrote:

@terrier3 wrote:

All it takes is a few dozen fanatics obsessed with death & destruction.

 

This is a low tech - a few guns and homemade bombs filled with nails...in the hands of people who are only not afraid to die for their cause - they welcome death.

 

To me the question is WHY are people turning to this - killing strangers and then killing themselves in the process? And what can we do to make them see a better way.


Here lies one problem with 'fighting' this type of war. Some people (and groups) cannot be reasoned with, they cannot be negotiated with, they cannot be compromised with. 

 

So many Americans think that these kind of people are raised to sympathize, empathize, to be tolerant, accepting, and rational. They are not. To try to find a way to do such things with these people only cost more lives. 


The problem is that THEY are US.

THEY are here already. THEY are not just people of Middle Eastern heritage.

THEY are fanatics - fueled on by propaganda they see on the internet.

 

May I repeat - THEY are here - and many of our children are being drawn to their warped thinking...and are being recruited daily.


ITA.

It's shocking to me how people don't see this....or understand this.

Dovetails w/ the responses about Syrian refugees to the US.  The refugees have nothing to do with the people...they are escaping from.   Why can't people see this?  Innocent people needing help to save their lives. 


Because they all aren't in innocent refugees


 

So in fear of what one in a thousand *might* do/be, let the rest of them starve? And let the rest of them, women and children, remember who could have helped them and didn't? Remember when *they* are adults. Yet some kindness might make a world of difference, now and in the future.


Economically, we can't.  Woman and children are trained to be terrorists too  and how would you screen them? ...how would you watch them?  We are governed by laws protecting privacy and as said earlier, we are politically correct to the point of absurdity.  The Arabian Peninsula and Middle Eastern countries must step up to the plate.  I walk through NYC and see bread lines, veterans forced to beg and seniors and the poor living in places with no heat or plumbing....you see the same in many large American cities....The USA can no longer handle a crisis of humanity alone.  Germany has helped but the economy is better.... We can't be the worlds police nor can we open our borders to all no matter where they come from 

 

 


I'm puzzled here.  The US has not attempted to open the floodgates and allow tens of thousands of Middle Eastern refugees in to live in the US.

 

I get the "feed your own first" thing, but where do you draw the line? Don't spend money in Haiti after the earthquake, there are hungry people in the US? Don't send aid to South Asia after the tsunami, or to Nepal, because Americans need help.  Who decides what is a "worthy" group to help? There were Muslims in South Asia who received US aid.  Most Haitians practice Voudou as much as Christianity. The Nepalese are Buddhist. The US gave millions to help all of these non-Christian people, and yes, they did it while we still have homeless people in the US.

 

I don't agree with 'don't help any Middle Eastern Refugees because some of them might be terrorists.'


I didn't say don't help them but it doesn't have to be on US soil.  This has to be an effort by all civilized countries and Middle Eastern countries must do more.  We need, vetting, screening and monitoring of anyone coming to this Country.  Yes, others receive aide and I don't factor in religious beliefs as far as who receives such aide but they are not coming here to do harm; they experience conditions in their own countries.  All of the refugees are not terrorists but some may be and until we can tell the difference, it is my opinion that our borders should not be porous. 

 

 

They never have been Open to All. There has always been a vetting process. That no vetting process can ever be 100% effective is because we are human beings, and not infallible. 

 

America is known as the Land of the Free, not the Land of Scram, We're Not Taking Any Chances.

 

I understand, with each new terrorist attack in the world, the fear and the anger, and "wish we could" and even "we should". But understanding it and believing it is actually feasible don't necessarily go together.


 

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@foundinlv wrote:

The Syrian refugees arrived last week in Louisiana.  Here is a letter from Gov Jindal.

 

http://www.katc.com/story/30519158/jindal-demands-answers-about-syrian-refugees-arriving-to-louisian...

 

 


I see nothing wrong with the questions he's asking. They deserve answers. I'm betting that even before Paris, these people were going to live under a microscope.

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Checked on my friend in Paris.  She finally e-mailed me back that she is okay.   She goes to that area for dinner and entertainment on occasion but stayed home on Friday night.  

 

It's sickening and scary.   We are not safe anymore in this world.

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