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[suzyQ3]

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@Nancy Drew wrote:

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@suzyQ3 wrote:

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@Nancy Drew wrote:

CDC if that is a source you find credible also has mask guidelines.

Cloth mask: Do not filter anything. As you exhale, you are ridding your lung of contaminates and carbon dioxide. Cloth mask trap this carbon dioxide the best. It actually risk your health rather than protect it. The moisture caught in these mask will become mildew ridden in 30 minutes. Dry coughing, enhanced allergies, sore throat are all symptoms of a micro mildew in your mask.  
The CDC reports on N95 respirator and surgical mask. There is a wealth of information over there to make an informed decision. 

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@Nancy Drew, I have seen this debunked many, many times. Are you saying that you saw this on the CDC site? It's been tested and found not to be true.

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Yes. I am confused as to why we are asked to wear mask when the CDC put this out themselves.

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@Nancy Drew, can you provide a link for me, please?

[pitdakota]

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@Nancy Drew wrote:

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  @tucsongal wrote:
  

  @Nancy Drew I’m also encouraged that the overall mortality rate has gone down with increased knowledge and more effective treatments. Unfortunately, we are starting to see the longer term effects of this disease. Surviving Covid does not necessarily mean you that you return to health and many people are suffering for months after testing negative, even those that weren’t hospitalized.

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@tucsongal Where can I get the information this information you posted? I would like to learn more.

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 @Nancy Drew       I am not @tucsongal, but here are just a few of many different articles out there although some of them can't be posted because of the sidebars:

https://www.wjbf.com/top-stories/recovery-process-of-covid-19-can-cause-lifelong-complications/ 

https://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S0004-282X2020000500290 

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S014067362031182X 

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/what-we-know-about-the-long-term-effects-of-covid-19 

There is quite a bit out there looking at recovery and many research studies now under way.  

You can also probably google "covid brain" for quite a bit of information about some of the neurological issues those recovering are experiencing, etc.

Hope that helps.

[Porcelain]

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@Nancy Drew wrote:

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@suzyQ3 wrote:

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@Nancy Drew wrote:

CDC if that is a source you find credible also has mask guidelines.

Cloth mask: Do not filter anything. As you exhale, you are ridding your lung of contaminates and carbon dioxide. Cloth mask trap this carbon dioxide the best. It actually risk your health rather than protect it. The moisture caught in these mask will become mildew ridden in 30 minutes. Dry coughing, enhanced allergies, sore throat are all symptoms of a micro mildew in your mask.  
The CDC reports on N95 respirator and surgical mask. There is a wealth of information over there to make an informed decision. 

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@Nancy Drew, I have seen this debunked many, many times. Are you saying that you saw this on the CDC site? It's been tested and found not to be true.

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Yes. I am confused as to why we are asked to wear mask when the CDC put this out themselves.

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Sea lioning? Or genuinely confused and demanding sources repeatedly and exclusively on only one particular part of one particular subject even though many well-meaning people attempt to explain it over and over and over again.

[suzyQ3]

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@Lali1 wrote:

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@Laura14 wrote:

@pitdakota I would agree with you almost every time on this but no one is an expert on a novel virus and she wasn't reporting on virus.  She was reporting on mask wearing.  I understand specialties but I also expect an MD to have a general knowledge base that I can trust on general health matters like what a face covering can and cannot do.  

I think all of our posts are proving my original point.  When you have both sides of the mouth talking with mixed messages, people tune out.  I did because who does a lay person like me know what to believe?  

I don't have time for it with a full time job, burying relatives, and supporting elder family members.  The media needs to get their act together and report more responsibly.  

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I won't hold my breath on the media reporting responsibly. All they care about it stirring up emotions to boost ratings. 

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You know, @Lali1, everybody is allowed to have their own opinion. And my opinion is that dismissing this as bunch of hype is a slap in the face for every single suffering or dying with this novel virus and for all who are working so hard help stop more from suffering and dying.

[JustJazzmom]

IMO if an entire continent -- Asia wears masks during cold and flu season routinely, who are we to question to mask or not mask when a disease such as Covid arises?

Mask up and save lives. Period.

[Sheila P-Burg]

@Deree  .....  I know what you are referring to and understand. I just have trouble getting my mind to understand. Either you believe in someone or you don't. If you believe in the person you usually don't question their expertise. 

[Nancy Drew]

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@suzyQ3 wrote:

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@Nancy Drew wrote:

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@suzyQ3 wrote:

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@Nancy Drew wrote:

CDC if that is a source you find credible also has mask guidelines.

Cloth mask: Do not filter anything. As you exhale, you are ridding your lung of contaminates and carbon dioxide. Cloth mask trap this carbon dioxide the best. It actually risk your health rather than protect it. The moisture caught in these mask will become mildew ridden in 30 minutes. Dry coughing, enhanced allergies, sore throat are all symptoms of a micro mildew in your mask.  
The CDC reports on N95 respirator and surgical mask. There is a wealth of information over there to make an informed decision. 

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@Nancy Drew, I have seen this debunked many, many times. Are you saying that you saw this on the CDC site? It's been tested and found not to be true.

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Yes. I am confused as to why we are asked to wear mask when the CDC put this out themselves.

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@Nancy Drew, can you provide a link for me, please?

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I don't provide links myself. However on the CDC front page they advocate for mask. However in the advance search , then other links the report on 3 types of masks come up. N95, surgical and cloth. I personally find it disconcerting on the very same website the cons of surgical and cloth mask hidden then prompted hard on the front page. Now do I think they can reevaluate the pros and cons? Yes but I wish they were more transparent about their change of mind. 

[Laura14]

Just in time, Dr. Fauci and Mark Zuckerberg on FB Live tomorrow at 5pm I assume EST for a discussion on what we can do and where we are.  If interested, there is your PSA expert for the day.  

[pitdakota]

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@Lali1 wrote:

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@Laura14 wrote:

@pitdakota I would agree with you almost every time on this but no one is an expert on a novel virus and she wasn't reporting on virus.  She was reporting on mask wearing.  I understand specialties but I also expect an MD to have a general knowledge base that I can trust on general health matters like what a face covering can and cannot do.  

I think all of our posts are proving my original point.  When you have both sides of the mouth talking with mixed messages, people tune out.  I did because who does a lay person like me know what to believe?  

I don't have time for it with a full time job, burying relatives, and supporting elder family members.  The media needs to get their act together and report more responsibly.  

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I won't hold my breath on the media reporting responsibly. All they care about it stirring up emotions to boost ratings. 

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@Lali1 Sadly, if you talk to the doctors and the nurses working in the covid units in the hard hit areas, this is just not accurate.  In fact, a nurse I know working in Miami wants to know why it isn't raising alarm all over the country.  She is so very frustrated and tired from working covid ICUs and has no idea how they are going to manage.

They would certainly take issue with the media just trying to stir up emotions to boost ratings.  But I have a feeling the ones I know would say "do it more" because we are drowning here and no one seems to care what is going on out there.  

So please, send more of this emotion stirring media her way in Miami would ya?  Because evidently, it hasn't stirred emotions enough in her area.  At least enough to change behavior so that transmission rate starts to drop and they stop seeing younger and younger people in the ICU.

She has a 27 year old in the ICU in critical condition  on a ventilator and is struggling with the fact that the wife just can't grasp how very serious her husband is because they just went to a swimming party and someone there ended up testing positive.  He's young you know and is supposed to do just peachy keen even if he does get it. And you know....it's just the media blowing things out of proportion and trying to scare everyone.

Too bad for this 27 year old.  Sure hope he makes it and hope he recovers without long term impact.  But you know, if you talk about it...it is just the media stirring up emotion.

[suzyQ3]

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@Sheila P-Burg wrote:

@Deree  .....  I know what you are referring to and understand. I just have trouble getting my mind to understand. Either you believe in someone or you don't. If you believe in the person you usually don't question their expertise. 

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@Sheila P-Burg, sometimes "believe" is something far different than agreeing or disagreeing with what a person says. Sometimes the "believe" is not derived from reason or logic and becomes part of your emotional identity