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[Yuban3]

On 7/8/2014 mima said:

On 7/8/2014 Yuban3 said:

Here's a scary and disturbing thought.

What IF this was all planned before conception?

Meaning, they got married, got in to debt, and said, "Hey, what better way to get some quick $ then to collect on a life insurance? We'll have a kid, take life insurance out on it, then, when the time is right, we'll 'forget' him in a hot car, since everybody else seems to get away with that. Then when he passes, we'll collect on his life insurance."

Sick? Yes. But there are sick people out there who would actually plan this sort of thing, years before the child was ever actually conceived.

If that was the plan, they wouldn't have waited 22 months to do it. They would have did it last summer.

Maybe, maybe not. Maybe they wanted to establish the "we're a happy, loving family" bit first. Get people to see/think/feel/believe that they were happy, loving, good parents, and then commit the deed.

[brii]

If this was planned, they could have come up with a better plan. They are incredibly stupid for thinking they were going to get away with this...

[mima]

On 7/8/2014 Yuban3 said:

On 7/8/2014 mima said:

On 7/8/2014 Yuban3 said:

Here's a scary and disturbing thought.

What IF this was all planned before conception?

Meaning, they got married, got in to debt, and said, "Hey, what better way to get some quick $ then to collect on a life insurance? We'll have a kid, take life insurance out on it, then, when the time is right, we'll 'forget' him in a hot car, since everybody else seems to get away with that. Then when he passes, we'll collect on his life insurance."

Sick? Yes. But there are sick people out there who would actually plan this sort of thing, years before the child was ever actually conceived.

If that was the plan, they wouldn't have waited 22 months to do it. They would have did it last summer.

Maybe, maybe not. Maybe they wanted to establish the "we're a happy, loving family" bit first. Get people to see/think/feel/believe that they were happy, loving, good parents, and then commit the deed.

A younger baby that wouldn't be talking yet would make more sense. They would be able to establish that they are a happy loving family in 10 months I would think. If they needed/wanted money, I can't see them waiting an extra year.

They are guilty, don't get me wrong. I just don't think they planned it from pre-conception.

[QueenDanceALot]

On 7/8/2014 brii said:

If this was planned, they could have come up with a better plan. They are incredibly stupid for thinking they were going to get away with this...

I think they're both Sociopaths.

And all sociopaths are narcissists.

These 2 just happen to be STUPID narcissistic sociopaths.

[Yuban3]

On 7/8/2014 mima said:

On 7/8/2014 Yuban3 said:

On 7/8/2014 mima said:

On 7/8/2014 Yuban3 said:

Here's a scary and disturbing thought.

What IF this was all planned before conception?

Meaning, they got married, got in to debt, and said, "Hey, what better way to get some quick $ then to collect on a life insurance? We'll have a kid, take life insurance out on it, then, when the time is right, we'll 'forget' him in a hot car, since everybody else seems to get away with that. Then when he passes, we'll collect on his life insurance."

Sick? Yes. But there are sick people out there who would actually plan this sort of thing, years before the child was ever actually conceived.

If that was the plan, they wouldn't have waited 22 months to do it. They would have did it last summer.

Maybe, maybe not. Maybe they wanted to establish the "we're a happy, loving family" bit first. Get people to see/think/feel/believe that they were happy, loving, good parents, and then commit the deed.

A younger baby that wouldn't be talking yet would make more sense. They would be able to establish that they are a happy loving family in 10 months I would think. If they needed/wanted money, I can't see them waiting an extra year.

They are guilty, don't get me wrong. I just don't think they planned it from pre-conception.

I'm not saying that they did. I'm just saying that it possible that they did.

And nobody said that these two were geniuses.

[reese2]

On 7/7/2014 raven-blackbird said:

Cooper would be in a better place IF he was born to parents that loved him and valued him.........thought he hung the moon and stars........and if not with his biological parents.........then to a couple who want a child so bad they would have hung that same moon and stars to have him and be able to call him their son..........than he would have had a chance at life.......to ride that bike, graduate from school, score the winning touchdown, fallen in love and married, and watch his own children grow............he deserved that chance.....................................raven

All I could see while reading this was my own boys and grandson doing those things. My heart breaks every time I think of what he went through. No punishment or torture of these two people (won't call them parents, they don't deserve that) would be more than they deserved.

[scotttie]

On 7/8/2014 KittyLouWhoToo said:

On 7/8/2014 brii said:

If this was planned, they could have come up with a better plan. They are incredibly stupid for thinking they were going to get away with this...

I think they're both Sociopaths.

And all sociopaths are narcissists.

These 2 just happen to be STUPID narcissistic sociopaths.

Exactly.

[just4me]

Sad, sad state of affairs when someone kills their baby for the life insurance policy, in order to pay debts. Just sickening.

[Lumming]

On 7/8/2014 KittyLouWhoToo said:

On 7/8/2014 brii said:

If this was planned, they could have come up with a better plan. They are incredibly stupid for thinking they were going to get away with this...

I think they're both Sociopaths.

And all sociopaths are narcissists.

These 2 just happen to be STUPID narcissistic sociopaths.

Not necessarily.

A Narcissist invests all of his energy into ensuring others validate his fragile ego. He lives in a frantic state of paranoia that he will be exposed at any minute. Consumed with avoiding this inevitable disaster, he has little energy to be genuinely interested in others.

A Sociopath, on the other hand, is quite different. To begin with, a Sociopath has no need to be validated by others. Unlike a Narcissist, a Sociopath has no underlying neediness for others approval. His remorseless behavior does not stem from a deep insecurity, like a Narcissist. Instead, he desires to exploit others simply for his entertainment and amusement.

Both a Narcissist and a Sociopath use others as objects, but a Sociopath is more exploitive. A Narcissist desperately needs others to validate him. He will only exploit those who pose a threat to him. His remaining victims (the ones who stroke his ego and provide supply) are vital to his sense of self. Without these people in his life worshipping him at all times, he will crumble.

A Sociopath has no need for others to validate his existence. He sees others as play things. The main character in the show “Dexter” is a perfect example of a Sociopath. He has no need for others except to the extent they can provide amusement to him. He exploits others to see what he can get away with because he finds it thrilling and exciting.

http://www.lisaescott.com/forum/2009/06/22/narcissist-or-sociopath-whats-difference

[Marienkaefer2]

I don't think it was just because of the life insurance. I think he is like CA.

He was tired of the responsibility and wanted the child gone. These people...true narcissists..It's all about them..They don't have feelings for others. The child was getting in his way.

If this had worked out the way they planned, it would have looked like an accident, and they'd get all the sympathy, and freedom. The money would be a bonus.

She went along with him, a la Susan Smith. Didn't she kill her two.kids because her boyfriend didn't want them around?

That's my opinion, anyway.