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[QueenDanceALot]

On 7/8/2014 Lumming said:

On 7/8/2014 KittyLouWhoToo said:

On 7/8/2014 brii said:

If this was planned, they could have come up with a better plan. They are incredibly stupid for thinking they were going to get away with this...

I think they're both Sociopaths.

And all sociopaths are narcissists.

These 2 just happen to be STUPID narcissistic sociopaths.

Not necessarily.

A Narcissist invests all of his energy into ensuring others validate his fragile ego. He lives in a frantic state of paranoia that he will be exposed at any minute. Consumed with avoiding this inevitable disaster, he has little energy to be genuinely interested in others.

A Sociopath, on the other hand, is quite different. To begin with, a Sociopath has no need to be validated by others. Unlike a Narcissist, a Sociopath has no underlying neediness for others approval. His remorseless behavior does not stem from a deep insecurity, like a Narcissist. Instead, he desires to exploit others simply for his entertainment and amusement.

Both a Narcissist and a Sociopath use others as objects, but a Sociopath is more exploitive. A Narcissist desperately needs others to validate him. He will only exploit those who pose a threat to him. His remaining victims (the ones who stroke his ego and provide supply) are vital to his sense of self. Without these people in his life worshipping him at all times, he will crumble.

A Sociopath has no need for others to validate his existence. He sees others as play things. The main character in the show “Dexter” is a perfect example of a Sociopath. He has no need for others except to the extent they can provide amusement to him. He exploits others to see what he can get away with because he finds it thrilling and exciting.

http://www.lisaescott.com/forum/2009/06/22/narcissist-or-sociopath-whats-difference

According to many, a Sociopath is ALWAYS also a Narcissist, but a Narcissist is not necessarily a Sociopath.

So, yes, there is a difference, of course, but a Sociopath always has narcissistic traits.

[QueenDanceALot]

On 7/8/2014 KittyLouWhoToo said:

On 7/8/2014 Lumming said:

On 7/8/2014 KittyLouWhoToo said:

On 7/8/2014 brii said:

If this was planned, they could have come up with a better plan. They are incredibly stupid for thinking they were going to get away with this...

I think they're both Sociopaths.

And all sociopaths are narcissists.

These 2 just happen to be STUPID narcissistic sociopaths.

Not necessarily.

A Narcissist invests all of his energy into ensuring others validate his fragile ego. He lives in a frantic state of paranoia that he will be exposed at any minute. Consumed with avoiding this inevitable disaster, he has little energy to be genuinely interested in others.

A Sociopath, on the other hand, is quite different. To begin with, a Sociopath has no need to be validated by others. Unlike a Narcissist, a Sociopath has no underlying neediness for others approval. His remorseless behavior does not stem from a deep insecurity, like a Narcissist. Instead, he desires to exploit others simply for his entertainment and amusement.

Both a Narcissist and a Sociopath use others as objects, but a Sociopath is more exploitive. A Narcissist desperately needs others to validate him. He will only exploit those who pose a threat to him. His remaining victims (the ones who stroke his ego and provide supply) are vital to his sense of self. Without these people in his life worshipping him at all times, he will crumble.

A Sociopath has no need for others to validate his existence. He sees others as play things. The main character in the show “Dexter” is a perfect example of a Sociopath. He has no need for others except to the extent they can provide amusement to him. He exploits others to see what he can get away with because he finds it thrilling and exciting.

http://www.lisaescott.com/forum/2009/06/22/narcissist-or-sociopath-whats-difference

According to many, a Sociopath is ALWAYS also a Narcissist, but a Narcissist is not necessarily a Sociopath.

So, yes, there is a difference, of course, but a Sociopath always has narcissistic traits.

A Sociopath is an empty vessel and needs his targets to fill it.

[scotttie]

What is the difference between a sociopath and a psychopath?

[QueenDanceALot]

http://paularenee.wordpress.com/identifying-a-narcissistic-sociopath/

[QueenDanceALot]

On 7/8/2014 scotttie said:

What is the difference between a sociopath and a psychopath?

There are disagreements about the terms but from what I've read most clinicians agree that a sociopath was formed by environment (early childhood trauma) and psychopaths are born.

They both distinguish themselves from other personality disorders by having no conscience.

They are both capable of great harm, either physically or emotionally, or both.

[scotttie]

On 7/8/2014 KittyLouWhoToo said:

On 7/8/2014 scotttie said:

What is the difference between a sociopath and a psychopath?

There are disagreements about the terms but from what I've read most clinicians agree that a sociopath was formed by environment (early childhood trauma) and psychopaths are born.

They both distinguish themselves from other personality disorders by having no conscience.

They are both capable of great harm, either physically or emotionally, or both.

Thanks kitty. Scary scary people.

[QueenDanceALot]

On 7/8/2014 scotttie said:

On 7/8/2014 KittyLouWhoToo said:

On 7/8/2014 scotttie said:

What is the difference between a sociopath and a psychopath?

There are disagreements about the terms but from what I've read most clinicians agree that a sociopath was formed by environment (early childhood trauma) and psychopaths are born.

They both distinguish themselves from other personality disorders by having no conscience.

They are both capable of great harm, either physically or emotionally, or both.

Thanks kitty. Scary scary people.

Extremely.

[QueenDanceALot]

On 7/8/2014 KittyLouWhoToo said:

On 7/8/2014 scotttie said:

On 7/8/2014 KittyLouWhoToo said:

On 7/8/2014 scotttie said:

What is the difference between a sociopath and a psychopath?

There are disagreements about the terms but from what I've read most clinicians agree that a sociopath was formed by environment (early childhood trauma) and psychopaths are born.

They both distinguish themselves from other personality disorders by having no conscience.

They are both capable of great harm, either physically or emotionally, or both.

Thanks kitty. Scary scary people.

Extremely.

They also have "crossover" traits.

So terms are not necessarily exact.

The main point is the lack of conscience for both the sociopath and psychopath.