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[HappyDaze]

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@mima wrote:

@HappyDaze  You can get the travel pillows on QVC.  They are pretty inexpensive and very nice!

H209793

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@mima thanks I will check them out!

[Caaareful Shopper]

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@Kachina624 wrote:

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@Caaareful Shopper wrote:

Although I love what My Pillow did for my sleep, I did a deeper dive on these lawsuits.  As others have stated here, there's more than one reason for them: 

The Sonoma Co., CA DA settling that suit also stated that My Pillow advertised itself as the “Official Bed Pillow” of the National Sleep Foundation (“NSF”), without disclosing that a material financial connection existed between My Pillow and NSF. 

I have heard him mention that connection in nearly every My Pillow presentation on QVC.

I wonder what his relationship with QVC will be after this.

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There are all types of phony organizations that pop up to support commercial endeavors.  I noticed this once when I was researching air purifiers.  Every brand was recommended by some foundation, organization, or board that nobody ever heard of.

I doubt this will affect QVC's relationship with the company.  They're still pushing WEN and Lisa Rinna, aren't they?

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I don't know much about the NSF @Kachina624.  But they have been discussed on various news shows over the years.  I've heard about them plenty, but I have no idea if any of the NSF folks are doctors.  I do think QVC would be wise to have the My Pillow guy stop using that tagline in his sales pitch. 

[Moonchilde]

To respond to a few comments - 

Do you really think a DA's office would go ahead and decide to spend the county's money to sue a company because they had ONE complaint from ONE individual, that was without legal merit, just because? A quick google shows me that it was, in fact, a joint suit involving TEN counties in CA.

There is also an unrelated class action suit filed in Oregon for a different type of false advertising from My Pillow- "buy one, get one free." The company doubled the "regular price", so consumers weren't getting anything free.

As to whether these claims were made only in on-air presentations, or whether a completely different commercial was shown in CA that the rest of the country didn't see - These claims could be from the company website. They could be written. It's possible and likely that the paid infomercials contain material that QVC's presentations don't.

I have heard QVC hosts comment about various products that no medical claims are being made. QVC might have that stipulation for any vendor, whereas when not on QVC and doing their own infomercial they can say anything they like.

Whether people like a product or not has nothing to do with the company using false advertising to increase sales. If false advertising lawsuits were never brought and never won, we'd be back in true Wild West snake-oil territory where anyone could claim anything and that would be that.

[Kachina624]

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@Caaareful Shopper wrote:

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@Kachina624 wrote:

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@Caaareful Shopper wrote:

Although I love what My Pillow did for my sleep, I did a deeper dive on these lawsuits.  As others have stated here, there's more than one reason for them: 

The Sonoma Co., CA DA settling that suit also stated that My Pillow advertised itself as the “Official Bed Pillow” of the National Sleep Foundation (“NSF”), without disclosing that a material financial connection existed between My Pillow and NSF. 

I have heard him mention that connection in nearly every My Pillow presentation on QVC.

I wonder what his relationship with QVC will be after this.

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There are all types of phony organizations that pop up to support commercial endeavors.  I noticed this once when I was researching air purifiers.  Every brand was recommended by some foundation, organization, or board that nobody ever heard of.

I doubt this will affect QVC's relationship with the company.  They're still pushing WEN and Lisa Rinna, aren't they?

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I don't know much about the NSF @Kachina624.  But they have been discussed on various news shows over the years.  I've heard about them plenty, but I have no idea if any of the NSF folks are doctors.  I do think QVC would be wise to have the My Pillow guy stop using that tagline in his sales pitch. 

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@Caaareful Shopper  The National Sleep Foundation does have a decent website so it may be legit, however they also have this interesting disclaimer that Mr. Lindell may have missed:

"The National Sleep Foundation (NSF) does not control or endorse, and is not responsible for, any specific sleep products, therapeutics, therapies, or services that may appear on our Web sites. The information contained on any NSF Web site is for informational and educational purposes only, and is not intended to be used for diagnosis or treatment of any medical condition or to otherwise replace medical advice by qualified health professionals.  Questions or concerns regarding products purchased on nsf.patientsleepsupplies.com should be directed to Patient Sleep Supplies."

[HappyDaze]

False claims happen all the time and companies aren't always sued. Like Josie Maran claiming argan oil can get rid of wrinkles. No, it cannot get rid of wrinkles, it is biologically impossible based on what argan oil is and what a wrinkle is. Soften the look of the wrinkles, possibly, but get rid of, no. Yet she says it all the time. How many times do you hear skincare people say that their product will make you look 10-20 years younger? Those are wildly FALSE claims and yet they say it all the time.

I do not believe it is ok for companies to make false claims but I also think these lawsuits get ridiculous and, at some point, consumers need to do their own research and educate themselves and not believe everything they read or hear. I think it is ridiculous and I believe common sense needs to factor in at some point. Like that hot coffee can scald you. Common sense, unless you are an infant.

[BohemianGal]

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@Kachina624 wrote:

I think My Pillow owes me some money.  They GAVE me headaches.  I bought a pair and unfortunately let the deadline for a return slip by.  Now I'm stuck with a pair of the stupid things.  Serves me right for listening to all that hype from Pillow Man.

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@Kachina624.....I bought these pillows a few years back and had to retrun them because of an allergic reaction.  Everyone whould look into the toxicity of this pillow (and others) before purhasing and do your homework.  I must mention that I have chemical sensitivies and auto immune disease, so I can react when others don't.  BUT, IT DOESN'T MEAN THE ITEM ISN'T TOXIC....just that healthy indiviuduals  may not "feel sick" while others who are compromised will...but even those that feel "fine" are being exposed to dangerous chemcials.  When purchsing mattresses, bedding, etc. you need to be extra careful.

A few months ago, my son (age 27) purchased a "memory foam" mattress pad and within 24 hrs. ended up being taken to the ER with a SEVERE allergic reaction.  He was very ill, and it was turning into a "life threatening" situation, as he was on the verge of going into shock...and he is completely strong and healthy.... 

BUYER BEWARE!!!!

BohemianGal

[Tinkrbl44]

Ruh row ???

[Moonchilde]

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@Tinkrbl44 wrote:

Ruh row ???

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Scooby Doo. 

https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/ruh-roh

Apparently ruh roh is the preferred spelling.

[Kachina624]

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@HappyDaze wrote:

False claims happen all the time and companies aren't always sued. Like Josie Maran claiming argan oil can get rid of wrinkles. No, it cannot get rid of wrinkles, it is biologically impossible based on what argan oil is and what a wrinkle is. Soften the look of the wrinkles, possibly, but get rid of, no. Yet she says it all the time. How many times do you hear skincare people say that their product will make you look 10-20 years younger? Those are wildly FALSE claims and yet they say it all the time.

I do not believe it is ok for companies to make false claims but I also think these lawsuits get ridiculous and, at some point, consumers need to do their own research and educate themselves and not believe everything they read or hear. I think it is ridiculous and I believe common sense needs to factor in at some point. Like that hot coffee can scald you. Common sense, unless you are an infant.

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@HappyDaze    The cosmetic companies are the greatest liars and exaggerators in the world.  If you carefully analyze what they claim, you want to laugh out loud.  Yet, hope springs eternal and women can hardly wait to be the first in line to buy hyped, high-priced products.  I guess they'll continue until somebody sues them, one by one.

[Moonchilde]

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@Kachina624 wrote:

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@HappyDaze wrote:

False claims happen all the time and companies aren't always sued. Like Josie Maran claiming argan oil can get rid of wrinkles. No, it cannot get rid of wrinkles, it is biologically impossible based on what argan oil is and what a wrinkle is. Soften the look of the wrinkles, possibly, but get rid of, no. Yet she says it all the time. How many times do you hear skincare people say that their product will make you look 10-20 years younger? Those are wildly FALSE claims and yet they say it all the time.

I do not believe it is ok for companies to make false claims but I also think these lawsuits get ridiculous and, at some point, consumers need to do their own research and educate themselves and not believe everything they read or hear. I think it is ridiculous and I believe common sense needs to factor in at some point. Like that hot coffee can scald you. Common sense, unless you are an infant.

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@HappyDaze    The cosmetic companies are the greatest liars and exaggerators in the world.  If you carefully analyze what they claim, you want to laugh out loud.  Yet, hope springs eternal and women can hardly wait to be the first in line to buy hyped, high-priced products.  I guess they'll continue until somebody sues them, one by one.

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The cosmetics companies pretty much universally state somewhere at some point that their products work on the "APPEARANCE of fine lines and wrinkles" - and many of them do that. It might be for 5 min or 5 hrs, but as long as they use the word 'appearance' they are okay as far as legal claims. Just about any cream you apply will diminish the appearance of lines and wrinkles.

There *were* lawsuits, years ago, which is exactly why these companies have to use the words "appearance" or "visible."