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Mominohio · ‎08-08-2010

@ChynnaBlue wrote:
No, it's the same world as it was before this event and the same world it was after the Sandy Hook event, after the Aurora shooting, after the Riverside shootings, after Gabby Giffords was gunned down in Arizona, after Columbine, after the Cleveland Elementary shootings, and after the UT Tower shootings. It will be the same world after the next mass shooting, too.

Because when you change nothing, nothing changes.

To insinuate that there have been no changes is just misrepresenting the truth.

Much has changed, within people themselves, within LE and security, and within our political climate grappling to deal with these things. It is perhaps not enough change, or not all change has been in a positive or constructive direction, or changing is not happening fast enough. But there has indeed been change.

DoneTryin · ‎03-09-2010

Yes, it certainly is a different world from what it was when I was a kid in the 50s.

Yes, it's frustrating to learn that some bad guys have slipped through law enforcement's fingers only to go on to perform heinous acts.

We want to retain our freedom which includes our right to privacy, & at the same time expect LE to be able to stop the bad guys before they commit the crimes. Where is the line to be drawn where LE has the right to check further into something a person does yet still allow us our right to privacy? I don't think there are any easy answers here.

Maudelynn · ‎05-08-2015

@Melania wrote:
Sighing and moaning about the past does not help us NOW or those that supposedly saw the future and are glad they are dead. I would rather have them here instead of dead to save them from hurt. They would handle it like we do.
I think most us realize that things have changed for a long time now.
Many of you choose to overlook that the that person did nothing at the time that was arrestable. Just like one of you toting your weapons...unless you do something that is a crime you are free.

Do you want a police state? You want your rights preserved but then *itch and moan about nothing being done to protect us?? It's laughable at the hypocrisy and ultimate selfishness.

What really boggles my mind is the notion that we have to demand stepped up security when attending large gatherings, stepped up security which disallows guns from being carried into an event- in essence, we should be guaranteed a "gun-free zone" in gathering places.

However, you're treading on rights when you demand that the same "gun-free" zone be applicable to the public at large.

I don't understand that rationale.

You have sacrificed nothing and no one.

Mominohio · ‎08-08-2010

@AngusandBuddhasMom wrote:
@Mominohio wrote:
@qualitygal wrote:
@Pearlee wrote:
"It's a different world" is not news to me. We here in this country found that out on 9/11/01.
@Pearlee,
I think that we now, who may not have been in NY at that time, it's just really sinking in. You know how people can say, things happen to other people and they don't think it (bad stuff) will happen to them? I think reality has set in. The horridness of things that go on now, are unbelievable. I think it's just really sinking in about the reality of it all. It's horrible.

I don't think most people living in this country can/could grasp this sort of horrificness ever happening here. I sure didn't. It's so scary. JMHO.

Being the daughter of a very forward thinking LE career man, I always knew the possibilities, but I thought the American spirit would over come. I believed we had enough good people to hold most of the evil at bay. I am beginning to think we may not.
Seriously? We have evil within our borders. We have a Pres. candidate who is feeding off that hate and intolerance. It is those that refused to accept those who are different in this country that are the real problem.

And why in the world are assualt rifles legal to own???????????

Where did you see me define evil as only from outside our boarders? That assumption was yours. Evil from within has indeed always been with us, but we have fought and defeated (or contained or reduced) it over and over ( in areas like slavery, civil rights, gay rights, women's rights etc.)

We used to, even if slowly, break it down and work to change it. But it seems to be coming in bigger waves with more power than ever before, and I personally feel we have fewer and fewer people willing to fight for good.

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ChynnaBlue · ‎05-22-2012

@Mominohio wrote:
@Puzzle Piece wrote:
For some things, probalby it's a different world - but then it's supposed to be.

I remember my history and well and so should everyone else. Many Native Americans were slaughtered and killed in the past just to take their land and just to kill them, yet it wasn't considered terrorism. 50 is a small number compared to the many that were killed in the past.

So this is a pay back kind of thing and to be considered acceptable?

That's absolutely not what she's said.

You painted a picture about living in a different world where fear and violence are somehow new. That's not the case. Violence isn't new. America has a long and shameful history of violence and a very short memory.

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goldensrbest · ‎03-10-2010

@Mominohio wrote:
@ChynnaBlue wrote:
No, it's the same world as it was before this event and the same world it was after the Sandy Hook event, after the Aurora shooting, after the Riverside shootings, after Gabby Giffords was gunned down in Arizona, after Columbine, after the Cleveland Elementary shootings, and after the UT Tower shootings. It will be the same world after the next mass shooting, too.

Because when you change nothing, nothing changes.

To insinuate that there have been no changes is just misrepresenting the truth.

Much has changed, within people themselves, within LE and security, and within our political climate grappling to deal with these things. It is perhaps not enough change, or not all change has been in a positive or constructive direction, or changing is not happening fast enough. But there has indeed been change.

You lost me mominohio,on this statement, no there has not been much change.

When you lose some one you L~O~V~E, that Memory of them, becomes a TREASURE.

Laura14 · ‎06-09-2014

@Maudelynn wrote:
@Melania wrote:
Sighing and moaning about the past does not help us NOW or those that supposedly saw the future and are glad they are dead. I would rather have them here instead of dead to save them from hurt. They would handle it like we do.
I think most us realize that things have changed for a long time now.
Many of you choose to overlook that the that person did nothing at the time that was arrestable. Just like one of you toting your weapons...unless you do something that is a crime you are free.

Do you want a police state? You want your rights preserved but then *itch and moan about nothing being done to protect us?? It's laughable at the hypocrisy and ultimate selfishness.
What really boggles my mind is the notion that we have to demand stepped up security when attending large gatherings, stepped up security which disallows guns from being carried into an event- in essence, we should be guaranteed a "gun-free zone" in gathering places.
However, you're treading on rights when you demand that the same "gun-free" zone be applicable to the public at large.

I don't understand that rationale.

I don't understand it for a different reason. Since most gun owners are incredibly responsible, I could not help but think how things could have been different if people had been allowed to carry inside. I get guns and alcohol are not a great mix but when the one and only can't get a clear shot, it would have been nice if there were a few others carrying to at least give everyone another fighting chance.

Mominohio · ‎08-08-2010

@Melania wrote:
Sighing and moaning about the past does not help us NOW or those that supposedly saw the future and are glad they are dead. I would rather have them here instead of dead to save them from hurt. They would handle it like we do.
I think most us realize that things have changed for a long time now.
Many of you choose to overlook that the that person did nothing at the time that was arrestable. Just like one of you toting your weapons...unless you do something that is a crime you are free.

Do you want a police state? You want your rights preserved but then *itch and moan about nothing being done to protect us?? It's laughable at the hypocrisy and ultimate selfishness.

Sorry but this post makes no sense to me. I truly don't get most of what you are trying to convey.