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05-10-2020 04:54 PM
@chickenbone wrote:California giving 75 million to illegals.
Heard half is state money. Guess it's up to the people in that state to let their head know how they feel.
hckynut(john)
05-10-2020 04:56 PM - edited 05-10-2020 05:01 PM
@Marp wrote:Let me see if I understand the problem correctly.
She has an American social security number.
She filed an American federal tax return.
She has an American bank account.
There is no place on a federal tax return where one certifies they are an American citizen.
A computer followed its instructions and issued a stimulus check based on the recipient having an American social security number, filing an American federal tax return, having an American bank account to receive refunds.
Guess certifying the taxpayer is an American citizen on tax returns will be the answer. (see original census data proposal and subsequent court ruling)
@Marp I agree, she met all the criteria to receive the payment. She said she felt others needed it more than she, presuming it's issuance was based on need, which it is not. Had nothing to do with need. It's purpose is to get people spending to stimulate the economy. As long as she's here and working legally, citizenship should not be an issue.
05-10-2020 04:56 PM
05-10-2020 04:56 PM - edited 05-10-2020 04:57 PM
@Marp wrote:Let me see if I understand the problem correctly.
She has an American social security number.
She filed an American federal tax return.
She has an American bank account.
There is no place on a federal tax return where one certifies they are an American citizen.
A computer followed its instructions and issued a stimulus check based on the recipient having an American social security number, filing an American federal tax return, having an American bank account to receive refunds.
Guess certifying the taxpayer is an American citizen on tax returns will be the answer. (see original census data proposal and subsequent court ruling)
I guess I don't see the reason for the upset either. She met the criteria to receive a payment and received one.
We have a family member who isn't a US citizen. She's legally lived in the US since she was a small child. She has a SSN, a job, and pays taxes. Is she supposed to be denied the payment merely because she's not become a US citizen? It seems that many people here think so. How terribly sad, and even sadder, how terribly typical of the Q boards.
05-10-2020 05:14 PM - edited 05-10-2020 05:18 PM
@suzyQ3 I got you. Some people seem to forget that the so called illigal aliens pay taxes or i should say that a lot of people don´t know about this fact.
05-10-2020 05:14 PM
Not sure where the outrage comes from. She did nothing wrong.
05-10-2020 05:16 PM
@FrostyBabe1 as long as your relative pays taxes, she qualifies.
05-10-2020 05:36 PM
@Sage04 wrote:@FrostyBabe1 as long as your relative pays taxes, she qualifies.
Umm, yes. I'm well aware of that. I wasn't asking if she would be eligible.
05-10-2020 05:48 PM
@sunshine45 wrote:
@Marp wrote:Let me see if I understand the problem correctly.
She has an American social security number.
She filed an American federal tax return.
She has an American bank account.
There is no place on a federal tax return where one certifies they are an American citizen.
A computer followed its instructions and issued a stimulus check based on the recipient having an American social security number, filing an American federal tax return, having an American bank account to receive refunds.
Guess certifying the taxpayer is an American citizen on tax returns will be the answer. (see original census data proposal and subsequent court ruling)
not everyone living here legally is an american citizen.
@sunshine45, of course not but the computers issuing the checks don't know if someone is a citizen or not, is legal or not, is alive or not. They only know to do what they have been told to do which is to issue checks under particular criteria. If the criteria for issuing a check is met the computer will issue it whether the individual is entitled to a check or not.
05-10-2020 05:53 PM
I have a couple of tax pros as friends and their blood pressure is never going to recover.
Go look the applicable sections. Very, very sloppy wordings. And then the database deficiency was world class.
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