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Re: I hate this time of year


@Plaid Pants2 wrote:

@SydneyH wrote:

@CAMOGIRL wrote:

My husband  is an avid deer hunter. So, I have no problem with hunting.

 

They need to be culled out because their population is growing all the time. There are limits on how many  you can kill for the season. And, they are still populating like crazy.

 

We have plenty of deer roaming freely in my neighborhood. People feed them. I feed them. Am I going to go hunting? - probably not. But, hunting serves a purpose - they need to keep the deer population down so they can survive.

 

it also serves another purpose - if you don't want to eat deer meat, there are plenty of shelters and such that will gladly take it after it is processed.

 

And, I don't want anyone to be offended. Hunting is not for everyone.


Well said.  Honestly the images of the deer and moose and mangled vehicles in my area I find more disturbing than anything else.  I had a deer jump in from of my car last month......


 

 

I hear ya.

 

 

One morning, a few years ago, I was on my way in to work, at o'dark-thirty.

 

Just before I got to my exit, here came four deer, crossing the two lane (in each direction) highway, going from my left, to my right.

 

I knew better than to swerve, (I was going below the speed limit. I was doing 60mph), but I did slam on my breaks.

 

I thought for sure that I was going to hit the hind quarters of the last deer in line, but luckily, it got out of the way in time.

 

 


A few years ago my husband was working out of town all the time, and I held my breath every trip because the drive was very rural, a very high deer population and no street lights. He had to plan to drive during daylight so the visibility would be better but there were still accidents with deer pretty regularly. Luckily he never had one and no longer makes that drive. 

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Re: I hate this time of year

I have seen these photos on my Facebook feed also and hate it. I can understand the hunting-the people in question do use the deer and turkeys for food-it's the "trophy" mentality I don't like. Do it, use it, but I don't think you need to boast about it or hand heads on your walls. It's the boasting I don't like, the celebrating of the killing.

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With hunters leaning on the 'population control' reasoning, why don't they kill cats & dogs?  Or squirrels & rabbits I see everywhere?  IknowIknow...'we eat what we kill'. I think those #s are really slim.  And yes, there are ways to control animal population without a bullet thru the head & obligatory FB pic.  

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It's a scientific fact, man is the only creature that we know of whose extinction would actually HELP the planet.  Humans tend to be incredibly anthropocentric and, regardless of the rationale given for inhumane actions, we are killing the earth.

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I was not raised by a father who had any weapons, hunting or otherwise, in the house. He was always inspired and awed by animals and would never harm them. I have unknowingly tried wild meat from my childhood friend's families. I did not like the taste of elk or deer, and definitely not wild fowl. My parents had deer and other animals come into their yard, and we always were mesmerized watching their beauty. I don't hang with hunters and gunners. I have nothing in common with them.  Yes, I do eat chicken and turkey, and on occasion beef, but the older I get the more vegetarian I have become. The interesting thing is I feel better sticking with a more vegetarian diet.

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Re: I hate this time of year

Great pics, Deb!  Beautiful  Smiley Happy

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Re: I hate this time of year


@JAXS Mom wrote:

@Plaid Pants2 wrote:

@SydneyH wrote:

@CAMOGIRL wrote:

My husband  is an avid deer hunter. So, I have no problem with hunting.

 

They need to be culled out because their population is growing all the time. There are limits on how many  you can kill for the season. And, they are still populating like crazy.

 

We have plenty of deer roaming freely in my neighborhood. People feed them. I feed them. Am I going to go hunting? - probably not. But, hunting serves a purpose - they need to keep the deer population down so they can survive.

 

it also serves another purpose - if you don't want to eat deer meat, there are plenty of shelters and such that will gladly take it after it is processed.

 

And, I don't want anyone to be offended. Hunting is not for everyone.


Well said.  Honestly the images of the deer and moose and mangled vehicles in my area I find more disturbing than anything else.  I had a deer jump in from of my car last month......


 

 

I hear ya.

 

 

One morning, a few years ago, I was on my way in to work, at o'dark-thirty.

 

Just before I got to my exit, here came four deer, crossing the two lane (in each direction) highway, going from my left, to my right.

 

I knew better than to swerve, (I was going below the speed limit. I was doing 60mph), but I did slam on my breaks.

 

I thought for sure that I was going to hit the hind quarters of the last deer in line, but luckily, it got out of the way in time.

 

 


A few years ago my husband was working out of town all the time, and I held my breath every trip because the drive was very rural, a very high deer population and no street lights. He had to plan to drive during daylight so the visibility would be better but there were still accidents with deer pretty regularly. Luckily he never had one and no longer makes that drive. 


@jaxs mom  @Plaid Pants2 I have a relative who has hit a deer twice on the way to work before dawn. It's the scariest thing ever!!  I honestly don't know how she still makes that drive. It's a two lane highway in the middle of nowhere with hardly any cars on the road at that hour. They just dart right out in front of you. 

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Re: I hate this time of year


@SydneyH wrote:

@NevaehsMom58 wrote:

I understand the need to control the population.  I just don't want to see them posing with their kill as if they're proud that they killed a living thing.


Most hunters are proud of their accomplishments, I guess you'll have to unfollow those on social media.


"Accomplishments..." Really?


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Re: I hate this time of year

Due to our own unwillingness to control our own population, we have created every aspect of the wild animal over-population problem... We've simply left them no room... And still, short sighted and lazy, we refuse to seek reasonable and humane solutions that do exist to control both wild and domestic animal populations. Instead, despite theoretically being 'civilized', we rely on killing them.

 

And the notion that in 2015 people have no options but to send our big strappin' men folk out to shoot dinner is just insulting... If hunters use their catch to feed their family, I'd posit that more times than not it's unnecessary for them to do so, but is secondary to a rather revolting male bonding ritual and/or an archaic and antiquated 'rite of passage'. Rather an embarrassing commentary on how far we haven't come, really...

 

And we call them 'animals'...


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It's important to recognize that humans are part of the animal kingdom. and we need to hunt, kill and eat just as other animals do..  We can't help it.  We were born that way.  We are different from other animals, however, in  knowing how and having the desire to exercise at least some degree of birth control, and to kill our prey in a humane manner if possible.

 

 Anyone  who is sheltered from what happens out there in the dead of night between "lesser" animals in our kingdom should  come see what these animals do to each other in my very own  yard on at least a weekly basis.

 

I live three stoplights outside of Wash DC--a large urbanized area-- but have an unfenced yard and live just close enough to federal parkland  to wake up many mornings to some horrible wildlife sights and devastation.

 

I've had to call animal control to come for a badly injured deer stuck in my back yard.  I've found deer leg bones  with hooves still attached on several occasions.  The best guess is that a deer got hit by a car on the nearby busy road and most of the carcass was eaten by the vultures who are always hanging around, and then some other larger animal dragged the inedible bone and hoof to my yard.

 

Only a few weeks ago, I was pulling out of my garage and had to stop my car to investigate some blobby mess in the driveway---apparently some large bird had met a very bad ending at the hands of the foxes or racoons or coyotes who pass through every night. 

 

The rabbit population, which was quite large until the past year or so, seems to have been reduced, probably by the foxes and coyotes whose muddy pawprints are all over my driveway.  It has never been unusual to find clumps of rabbit fur in the garden beds and hear some blood-curdling screeches during summer nights---sure evidence of a messy murder.

 

Then there was the pile of snow-white feathers lying in the yard one morning.  Apparently, some big bird, maybe a seagull (we sometimes see these around here for some reason), had come to no good from either the owls or the vultures or maybe a fox or coyote.

 

I have witnessed, in my own driveway, a couple of big black  crows systematically peck at and kill a poor mourning dove.  I've watched my little long-deceased dachshund kill a cute little chipmunk before I could stop her.

 

In the fall and winter, I've had up to 11  deer at one time in my little  backyard.  They make a mess with poop and urine and have even managed to start chewing on vegetation that deer supposedly do not eat unless they are very hungry, such as ivy and arborvitae shrubs.  Excessive numbers of very hungry deer  reportedly are consuming the understory of forests and woods, which is damaging the environment for trees and other living things.

 

Wildlife hunts and kills much more viciously than humans kill wildlife, any day of the week, unless you count hitting them with our cars.  

 

At least once or twice a week, when I exit the neighborhood and get out on the main road, a dead deer is lying somewhere on the side of the road after a nighttime collision with a car.

 

Animals have humans on their side who are rooting for their welfare and protection, and in that respect, we seem to be far kinder to them than they are to each other.   So it might be a good idea not to get too carried away in feeling sorry for them.