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Re: I hate this time of year

I'm afraid if my survival was dependent upon hunting, I would be a vegetarian for sure. For goodness sakes, I rescue worms that get caught on the sidewalk when the sun comes out after a rainstorm !!

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Re: I hate this time of year


@italia8140 wrote:




ACCOMPLISHMENTS? Too bad hunters are TOO COWARDLY to call what it is they do - KILLING a DEFENSELESS animal for sport. PATHETIC.


None of the hunters I know are 'cowardly'............carry on.

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Re: I hate this time of year


@SydneyH wrote:

@italia8140 wrote:




ACCOMPLISHMENTS? Too bad hunters are TOO COWARDLY to call what it is they do - KILLING a DEFENSELESS animal for sport. PATHETIC.


None of the hunters I know are 'cowardly'............carry on.


Cowardice, as most things, is relative. 

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I've seen more deer on our property this year than ever before so I know they need to be hunted. I don't like to see people make trophies of their kills though, a friend of mine used to go all the way to Canada to hunt and then have the heads mounted and displayed in their home. I found it very offensive and no longer go to their home.

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Re: I hate this time of year


@SydneyH wrote:

@italia8140 wrote:




ACCOMPLISHMENTS? Too bad hunters are TOO COWARDLY to call what it is they do - KILLING a DEFENSELESS animal for sport. PATHETIC.


None of the hunters I know are 'cowardly'............carry on.


YES, they are among other things. Carry on!

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@baker wrote:

I've seen more deer on our property this year than ever before so I know they need to be hunted. I don't like to see people make trophies of their kills though, a friend of mine used to go all the way to Canada to hunt and then have the heads mounted and displayed in their home. I found it very offensive and no longer go to their home.


 Very OFFENSIVE. I'm happy I don't know anyone who hunts or condones hunting. Those who do obviously have major issues and have to prove themselves by killing defenseless animals. Too cowardly to enter into a fair contest.

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Every year these posts about hunting get very interesting as different opinions and views are shared.   I respect everyone's opinion, and am well aware many opinions are from people who do not live in an area where these hunted animals are causing problems.  Not everyone lives as rural as I do, and not everyone grew up around hunters and guns, or eating food that didn't come from a grocery store.   

 

However, I am very proud of my WV heritage, and the fact my family has lived here and hunted these mountains for more than 150 years.  My family has hunting stories about bears and big bucks that were killed by my great great grandfather, my great grandfather and his brothers before 1863, on land that is still owned by my family.   Every male and female in my family were taught to handle, and shoot a gun at an early age; most of us have handled and shot the muzzleloader used by our great grandpa in his hunts.

 

Hunting is in our blood, and it's what we do.  I was taken on small game hunts when I was young, but I didn't like being out in the cold weather, and being still for a long time was not something I did well.   I was eager to help with the processing, and was never grossed out with that part, and it never stopped me from eating the meat.   Our farm animals existed for the sole purpose of feeding us; we didn't think they were cute, we did not see them as pets, and they never had names.   The deer, turkey, and bear that crossed our farm were viewed as another food source, and because of this, my family survived the leanest of times thru the Depression.

 

My early ancestors were farmers, as was my grandfather until the 70's.   Now my family consists of successful doctors, nurses, teachers, construction supervisors, and tractor trailer drivers, who have purchased lifetime hunting licenses (@ $500 each).  Not one of these people needs to prove anything to anyone.  One of the teachers, and one of the tractor trailer drivers, are my beautiful daughters, who have been hunting with bow and gun, since they were 15.   The deer meat eaten in this household is supplied by those 2 young women, and I have great pride in them for continuing our family's presence in these woods for 150+ years.   

 

I don't expect everyone to agree with hunting.   I do expect each of you are making your choices in life based on your lifestyle, your circumstances, what makes you happy, and what you feel you need to do, etc.   Speaking for the avid hunters in my family, I assure those of you who have expressed such strong, and negative opinions of what we do, that we are doing what we feel we need to do to help maintain the balance of the beautiful environment we live in.   Deer know only 2 things; eat, and breed.  If you ever drive thru our beautiful state on I-77 or I-64, and have an unfortunate encounter with a deer, perhaps you will view things a bit differently.   

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Re: I hate this time of year


@RedTop wrote:

Every year these posts about hunting get very interesting as different opinions and views are shared.   I respect everyone's opinion, and am well aware many opinions are from people who do not live in an area where these hunted animals are causing problems.  Not everyone lives as rural as I do, and not everyone grew up around hunters and guns, or eating food that didn't come from a grocery store.   

 

However, I am very proud of my WV heritage, and the fact my family has lived here and hunted these mountains for more than 150 years.  My family has hunting stories about bears and big bucks that were killed by my great great grandfather, my great grandfather and his brothers before 1863, on land that is still owned by my family.   Every male and female in my family were taught to handle, and shoot a gun at an early age; most of us have handled and shot the muzzleloader used by our great grandpa in his hunts.

 

Hunting is in our blood, and it's what we do.  I was taken on small game hunts when I was young, but I didn't like being out in the cold weather, and being still for a long time was not something I did well.   I was eager to help with the processing, and was never grossed out with that part, and it never stopped me from eating the meat.   Our farm animals existed for the sole purpose of feeding us; we didn't think they were cute, we did not see them as pets, and they never had names.   The deer, turkey, and bear that crossed our farm were viewed as another food source, and because of this, my family survived the leanest of times thru the Depression.

 

My early ancestors were farmers, as was my grandfather until the 70's.   Now my family consists of successful doctors, nurses, teachers, construction supervisors, and tractor trailer drivers, who have purchased lifetime hunting licenses (@ $500 each).  Not one of these people needs to prove anything to anyone.  One of the teachers, and one of the tractor trailer drivers, are my beautiful daughters, who have been hunting with bow and gun, since they were 15.   The deer meat eaten in this household is supplied by those 2 young women, and I have great pride in them for continuing our family's presence in these woods for 150+ years.   

 

I don't expect everyone to agree with hunting.   I do expect each of you are making your choices in life based on your lifestyle, your circumstances, what makes you happy, and what you feel you need to do, etc.   Speaking for the avid hunters in my family, I assure those of you who have expressed such strong, and negative opinions of what we do, that we are doing what we feel we need to do to help maintain the balance of the beautiful environment we live in.   Deer know only 2 things; eat, and breed.  If you ever drive thru our beautiful state on I-77 or I-64, and have an unfortunate encounter with a deer, perhaps you will view things a bit differently.   


One of the finest explanations of the culture of hunting I've ever read.

 

I don't come from a hunting family, but moved to a rural area in adulthood where it is a way of life. It took me quite some time to understand it fully. And while my husband and I don't hunt (my son has a little bit) I no longer look at hunters in general as lacking in something or cowardly. I look at each individual, how they hunt, why they hunt, and  what they do with what they harvest. And most in my area have my respect.

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Re: I hate this time of year


@italia8140 wrote:

@SydneyH wrote:

@NevaehsMom58 wrote:

I understand the need to control the population.  I just don't want to see them posing with their kill as if they're proud that they killed a living thing.


Most hunters are proud of their accomplishments, I guess you'll have to unfollow those on social media.


ACCOMPLISHMENTS? Too bad hunters are TOO COWARDLY to call what it is they do - KILLING a DEFENSELESS animal for sport. PATHETIC.


@italia8140  For someone who doesn't know anything about hunting, you certainly are mighty positive about the motivation of the average hunter.  Very few kill for sport.  For many families it's a matter of putting meat on the table.  It's not a matter of cowardice or heroics.  It all about food.  If you think shooting a deer is cowardly, what do you call killing and slaughtering a steer?  A chicken?  A horse?

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Re: I hate this time of year


@Kachina624 wrote:

@italia8140 wrote:

@SydneyH wrote:

@NevaehsMom58 wrote:

I understand the need to control the population.  I just don't want to see them posing with their kill as if they're proud that they killed a living thing.


Most hunters are proud of their accomplishments, I guess you'll have to unfollow those on social media.


ACCOMPLISHMENTS? Too bad hunters are TOO COWARDLY to call what it is they do - KILLING a DEFENSELESS animal for sport. PATHETIC.


@italia8140  For someone who doesn't know anything about hunting, you certainly are mighty positive about the motivation of the average hunter.  Very few kill for sport.  For many families it's a matter of putting meat on the table.  It's not a matter of cowardice or heroics.  It all about food.  If you think shooting a deer is cowardly, what do you call killing and slaughtering a steer?  A chicken?  A horse?


For many in our area, a large garden and hunting keeps people off food stamps. That is not cowardly. That is brave. Taking care of yourself instead depending on others . And anyone who eats meat really has no right criticizing or judging a legal and responsible hunter.