Re: Harvey Weinstein

SilleeMee · ‎05-22-2016

We most likely do make antibodies against the cv. We just haven't found a way to see them yet. Our antibodies are found in our blood so the test will involve blood collection for that. I've been reading some articles about new tests for cv antibodies. We already have one for MERS. CDC is working on blood test (antibody) for cv.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/about/testing.html

I know what you are talking about with the antibody injection.That's called antibody therapy.

pitdakota · ‎03-16-2010

@SilleeMee wrote:
@Sushismom wrote:
There is a difference between having the virus and actually having the disease (see WebMD). According the them, the virus is called severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2). This is the virus that causes COVID-19.

@Sushismom
Exactly! and thank you for saying that. I am losing my mind trying to explain the difference.

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It does get really technical & is different for different microbes. For example some people can culture MRSA out of the nasal passages, but not have an active infection.

The ability of a microbe to induce disease is call its virulence. For example, the virus that causes HIV is not as virulent as the virus that causes Hep. B.

However, it is still too early to really know from a scientific standpoint what its virulence actually is. And a characteristic of this virus is that is highly communicable when someone does not have any symptoms.

What we do know is that the incubation period is pretty signifcant time, up to 14 days. In some cases there are people that test positive and are aysmptomatic and then develop mild to moderate symptoms 5 or so days later. In other cases those that started off with just mild symptoms experience an increased severity of the disease 5-10 days later.

And there are many that contract the disease and have quite a difficult time without experiencing the characteristic pneumonia associated with this disease. So just because they don't develp the pneumonia or the complication of that pneumonia which is called adult respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS) doesn't mean they don't have COVID-19.

The most important thing is that if you test positive, you are most importantly a vector to pass it on to someone else or multiple other people whether you have symptoms or not.

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denisemb · ‎12-07-2012

I'm getting more confused by the moment.

A person can test positive for coronavirus, but exhibit no symptoms. Yet still be able to transmit coronavirus to others, who may not or may develop CLOVID-19 depending on their health issues?

Another person can test positive for coronavirus AND exhibit various serious symptoms which may lead to developing CLOVID-19 (the disease) and can transmit coronavirus to others? And again, depending on the recipient's medical history, they could either recover from the coronavirus, or succumb to the virus and develop CLOVID-19?

(I understand those that recover can be left with health issues, but not including that for brevity.)

Hope I'm asking this as clearly as a doofus can.

Thanks!

Denise

SilleeMee · ‎05-22-2016

@denisemb

COVID-19 is the disease you get from the virus. The virus can be inside anyone. But the ones who get tested are the people who are showing symptoms. Anyone can spread the virus even though they are not ill.

If you have not been tested and feel ill, there's no way to know what is making you sick so that's why they do a cv test on you so they know it's not the flu or something else. A positive coronavirus test confirms COVID-19, the disease.

denisemb · ‎12-07-2012

Thank you @SilleeMee

But I'm still confused.

Why did you ask in post #2:

"Is he sick? Does he have COVID-19 or did he just test positive for the virus?"

Sounds like 2 different things - the virus and the disease?? That's kinda what I'm trying to differentiate...?

BTW, DH & I are not sick at all. Just trying to understand it all.

Denise

SilleeMee · ‎05-22-2016

@denisemb wrote:
Thank you @SilleeMee

But I'm still confused.

Why did you ask in post #2:

"Is he sick? Does he have COVID-19 or did he just test positive for the virus?"

Sounds like 2 different things - the virus and the disease?? That's kinda what I'm trying to differentiate...?

BTW, DH & I are not sick at all. Just trying to understand it all.

I asked because if he is sick then that would be the reason why tested him. If he is not sick then I have no idea why they tested him...? @denisemb

denisemb · ‎12-07-2012

Ahhhh.got it.

Thanks so much for taking the time to explain all this. I believe knowledge is power, and since coronavirus and CLVID-19 seems to be used interchangeably these days, it was enlightening.

YOU take care of yourself and thanks again.

And I'll continue to hibernate and wash my hands even more than when we had 2 cats, LOL

Denise

pitdakota · ‎03-16-2010

@denisemb wrote:
I'm getting more confused by the moment.

A person can test positive for coronavirus, but exhibit no symptoms. Yet still be able to transmit coronavirus to others, who may not or may develop CLOVID-19 depending on their health issues?

Another person can test positive for coronavirus AND exhibit various serious symptoms which may lead to developing CLOVID-19 (the disease) and can transmit coronavirus to others? And again, depending on the recipient's medical history, they could either recover from the coronavirus, or succumb to the virus and develop CLOVID-19?

(I understand those that recover can be left with health issues, but not including that for brevity.)

Hope I'm asking this as clearly as a doofus can.

Thanks!
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@denisemb, yes a person asymptomatic with the cronavirus can actively pass the infection to others. Easily. This data is verified by information from China, Italy, South Korea, and here.

They actually had what they call a super spreader in Italy. He was a healthy 38 year old marathon runner who had flu like symptoms and was not tested. He was not really that sick and continued on with many activities. By the time he was actually diagnosed when he became really ill, through contact tracing they identified at least 13 people he infected. They included a guy he went jogging with, his wife, people he interacted with in a pub, 2 doctors, etc. And those are the ones they were actually able to trace directly to him. I can't remember exactly, but at least one of his contacts that developed the disease died.

We don't know enough about the natural history of disease yet to be able to say that only those with a certain medical history will succumb to the disease or not.

Unlike earlier reports, we are seeing quite a few infants and children diagnosed here in the US. So far they are doing well, so that is a positivel But so many are under the impression that children don't get this disease.

And we now have a 12 year old diagnosed with Covid-19 on a ventilator in critical condition here in the US.

Many others in their 30s and 40s here in the US on ventilators as well.

Too early to tell if those that do pull through have any significant pulmonary deficits post infection.

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Sushismom · ‎03-09-2010

@suzyQ3 wrote:
@Sushismom, can you please link to the exact issue we're talking about because I checked the site and saw nothing other than the info we all already have.

Sorry for the delay. Hopefully, this won't be gone...

https://www.webmd.com/lung/what-is-covid-19#1

Linmo · ‎12-16-2013

The point is that if you test positive you should be isolated from others. I'm not a Harvey Weinstein fan, but wouldn't wish that (coronavirus or isolation) on anyone.