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[151949]

I don't think most of you all realize how extremely strong a person is when having a psyciatric meltdown. It is amazing. 

I also think if a child was not restrained during an episode like this and your child was injured by them you would probably be irate over that. How would you feel if your kid came home with a broken arm or a black eye that they got from a kid who was having a meltdown like this.

[AngusandBuddhasMom]

Handcuffing a small child with his arms painfully held behind his back is not doing the best thing. This idiot showed no concern or professional judgment to this child. Disgusting and I would love to see the same done to this buffoon and see how he likes it. 

[AngusandBuddhasMom]

I happen to live in a town that has a high % of challenged kids. Because the parents move here knowing their children will be treated with compassion and understanding. There is a way to deal with a child having a meltdown this was not one of them. Our school district is always one of the top rated in the nation. I guess our teachers and school administration are doing something right.

[occasionalrain]

Too much. I've lost patience with the soft meltdown term, call it what it is, an out of control attack. Teachers shouldn't need shin guards and hockey masks in the classroom. No child should be expected to witness a classmate attacking his teacher. That students need an escape plan to avoid injury from a classmate is just wrong.

All this concern for the restrained child while none for his classmates and teacher is misplaced. 

[AngusandBuddhasMom]

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@occasionalrain wrote:

Too much. I've lost patience with the soft meltdown term, call it what it is, an out of control attack. Teachers shouldn't need shin guards and hockey masks in the classroom. No child should be expected to witness a classmate attacking his teacher. That students need an escape plan to avoid injury from a classmate is just wrong.

All this concern for the restrained child while none for his classmates and teacher is misplaced. 

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Your correct it is the child's fault not the "adults" dealing with said child. Instead of blaming a child how about the adults who are in charge and clearly lack and ability to deal with this situation or apparently any situation without brute force? This is not the 1950's where these poor kids would be most likely shackled and forgotten. 

I just said our school system deals with this issue and it works without humiliating or hurting the child who is clearly in need of help. But that takes initiative and intelligence not laziness and brute force.

[CrazyDaisy]

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@AngusandBuddhasMom wrote:

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@occasionalrain wrote:

Too much. I've lost patience with the soft meltdown term, call it what it is, an out of control attack. Teachers shouldn't need shin guards and hockey masks in the classroom. No child should be expected to witness a classmate attacking his teacher. That students need an escape plan to avoid injury from a classmate is just wrong.

All this concern for the restrained child while none for his classmates and teacher is misplaced. 

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Your correct it is the child's fault not the "adults" dealing with said child. Instead of blaming a child how about the adults who are in charge and clearly lack and ability to deal with this situation or apparently any situation without brute force? This is not the 1950's where these poor kids would be most likely shackled and forgotten. 

I just said our school system deals with this issue and it works without humiliating or hurting the child who is clearly in need of help. But that takes initiative and intelligence not laziness and brute force.

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Unfortunately in some circumstances brute force may be needed to regain control of the situation. 

[Lila Belle]

This incident just underscores the fact that LE really need to be better trained in handling mental health issues as well as how to deal with the public in general.

All first responders should be deemed mentally and emotionally stable and checked periodically before they deal with the public. jmo

This is not a slam toward LE etc btw. Just an observation in light of all of the tragedies and confrontations we're experiencing.

[occasionalrain]

Nothing, no excuse, will make kicking, hitting, biting a teacher acceptable. If force is required to prevent it than force should be employed. A big person experences pain the same as a small person, a kick will produce a bruse in both, a bite will bleed. If a child can't control himself than he doesn't belong in a classroom with other children.

[Justice4all]

Caravaggio, what school district is that?

[lulu2]

I knew early on I wanted to be a teacher.  Some of my friends chose to go into Special Education, but I knew I did not have the patience to go into this field.  They had many methods courses dealing with special needs, as well as physical training.  As a subject area (secondary math) teacher, I never had an classes dealing with special needs students.

When inclusion and in class support became mandated, I suddenly had on average 5 special needs students in classes they had little chance of passing.  The inclusion students were there to socialize. Most in class support students had math ability usually accompanied by behavioral problems. In a designated in class support section, a special ed teacher, and sometimes an aide, were assigned to me.  I felt frequently the non classified students were shortchanged.  I spent a good deal of time answering questions and trying to control social and discipline issues that came up due to these special education students. More than once a student had to be escorted from my room.  Once I was bitten on the arm. It was a deep cut that required stitches.  I was assured that student would not return to my class.  Within a few days the student was back in my class. (the student's choosing, not mine)

The video I saw was disturbing on many levels.  No elementary age student should have his or her elbows handcuffed behind the back. I'm not sure why a sheriff or policeman is disciplining a child.  In our district, discipline was handled in house, unless there was an illegal situation where an arrest would be involved.