Re: First order of business for the New Year

HappyDaze · ‎06-13-2012

Just an FYI, this is an interesting read about 15 of the more recent mass shootings and how the shooters obtained guns. Note that pretty much all of them obtained their guns legally and passed federal and state background checks. This just goes to show you that it isn't just a matter of having background checks, which are already in place almost everywhere, but a failure in the system in other areas. So passing more background check laws won't fix the problem, at least they did not prevent these shootings.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/10/03/us/how-mass-shooters-got-their-guns.html?hp&action=cli...

JustJazzmom · ‎03-09-2010

@deepwaterdotter wrote:
I underwent a background check when I purchased my firearm, it was painless and went smoothly. I didn't feel violated or intruded upon.

As well you should-- it should be the MO for all who own a firearm.

☼The best place to seek God is in a garden. You can dig for him there. GBShaw☼

JustJazzmom · ‎03-09-2010

Guns should have the ability to only fire if the owner has it in their hands (this will cut down on accidental obtaining of guns by those who steal them out of homes or of children handling them).

But you know the NRA is against having this put into place with gun manufacturers. I think its a great idea.

☼The best place to seek God is in a garden. You can dig for him there. GBShaw☼

YorkieonmyPillow · ‎01-13-2013

@RainCityWoman wrote:
@deepwaterdotter wrote:
I underwent a background check when I purchased my firearm, it was painless and went smoothly. I didn't feel violated or intruded upon.
Exactly. So you have to wonder what some who are so vehemently against it are hiding.

Because a person doesn't agree with background checks doesn't mean they are "hiding something." A person has a right to privacy, or at least, they should.

I wouldn't do a background check to get a firearm.

It's none of the government's business.

Drythe · ‎07-09-2011

It seems to me that there a lot of 'slippery slope' arguments about how to fix our gun problem. IMO we do have one.

'We can't do this because that other thing didn't work, or we can't do that because it might peeve that group, or the other group, and we shouldn't do the something else because of blah, blah, blah.'

I will use my 1st amendment rights to say that there are too many guns which are easily accessible to people who are not socially, or emotionally capable of handing their 4th amendment rights.

No idea about the best way to a solution.

"Animals are not my whole world, but they have made my world whole" ~ Roger Caras

RoughDraft · ‎03-09-2010

@YorkieonmyPillow wrote:
@RainCityWoman wrote:
@deepwaterdotter wrote:
I underwent a background check when I purchased my firearm, it was painless and went smoothly. I didn't feel violated or intruded upon.
Exactly. So you have to wonder what some who are so vehemently against it are hiding.
Because a person doesn't agree with background checks doesn't mean they are "hiding something." A person has a right to privacy, or at least, they should.
I wouldn't do a background check to get a firearm.
It's none of the government's business.

Until you or someone dear to you is harmed by someone with a weapon. That's when most people start demanding that the "government" should have known.

~The only difference between this place and the Titanic is that the Titanic had a band.~

Tinkrbl44 · ‎08-23-2010

@YorkieonmyPillow wrote:
All that is doing is harassing ordinary citizens.
Gang members and other criminals don't prance to a gun shop to buy firearms.
How ridiculous and he can say or do whatever he wants but he won't disarm the US although I'm sure he'll give it the old college try.....

You don't have to do a background check to purchase a gun.

Well, you sure have an odd idea about what "harassing" is ...... a person has to take a written test and then a driving test to get a drivers license, and most people don't consider that to be harassment ...... if a person is a good candidate for a firearm, having a background check shouldn't be a problem. People have to look at the big picture here.

YorkieonmyPillow · ‎01-13-2013

@RoughDraft wrote:
@YorkieonmyPillow wrote:
@RainCityWoman wrote:
@deepwaterdotter wrote:
I underwent a background check when I purchased my firearm, it was painless and went smoothly. I didn't feel violated or intruded upon.
Exactly. So you have to wonder what some who are so vehemently against it are hiding.
Because a person doesn't agree with background checks doesn't mean they are "hiding something." A person has a right to privacy, or at least, they should.
I wouldn't do a background check to get a firearm.
It's none of the government's business.

Until you or someone dear to you is harmed by someone with a weapon. That's when most people start demanding that the "government" should have known.

I can't help what "most people" do. I don't regard the government as some sort of powerful presence that protects things from happening to people.

YorkieonmyPillow · ‎01-13-2013

@Tinkrbl44 wrote:
@YorkieonmyPillow wrote:
All that is doing is harassing ordinary citizens.
Gang members and other criminals don't prance to a gun shop to buy firearms.
How ridiculous and he can say or do whatever he wants but he won't disarm the US although I'm sure he'll give it the old college try.....

You don't have to do a background check to purchase a gun.

Well, you sure have an odd idea about what "harassing" is ...... a person has to take a written test and then a driving test to get a drivers license, and most people don't consider that to be harassment ...... if a person is a good candidate for a firearm, having a background check shouldn't be a problem. People have to look at the big picture here.

People also need to look at history and how people have fared when their ability to defend themselves was removed......I could understand if people were worried about guns in the hands of criminals and gangs, but they never talk about that. I never hear any discussion about how to collect guns from the criminal element of society - I guess because they know it's impossible - yet they want regular people to have background checks.

None of it makes any sense, people are aware of that, and that's why gun sales are up.

hckynutjohn · ‎06-15-2015

@deepwaterdotter wrote:
I underwent a background check when I purchased my firearm, it was painless and went smoothly. I didn't feel violated or intruded upon.

I had a background check when I purchased mine also. Then a much more thorough and "Expensive" one when I applied for State CCW Permit. Since I am not a felon and my last ticket(speeding) was in 1960? What further background check would/could be done?

Also had to take a written test, and pass it. An 8 hour class of State laws and rules, along with handgun safely. Next day was 4 hours of learning how to clean and maintain your firearm (disassemble/assemble ), and difference in types of bullets.

Half of that 4 hour class was on the firing range. Had pop-up/still and moving targets. Had to fire 75 rounds at them. If you didn't hit over 80% of targets? You flunked, no CCW Permit obtained. Seems like a good and thorough enough background check to me.

hckynut(john)