First order of business for the New Year - Page 4

hckynutjohn · ‎06-15-2015

@Tinkrbl44 wrote:
Well, there does need to be better regulation .... nut unfortunately, background checks pretty much will only red flag things that have already occurred.

IMO ..... It won't matter if it's a terrorist, a bullied and angry adolescent that keeps to himself, or a garden variety total nutjob ..... until "they" can read peoples' minds, crazy and dangerous events will continue to happen. And it has nothing to do with govt or law enforcement doing their jobs.

And I agree.

hckynut(john)

hckynutjohn · ‎06-15-2015

@JustJazzmom wrote:
Guns should have the ability to only fire if the owner has it in their hands (this will cut down on accidental obtaining of guns by those who steal them out of homes or of children handling them).

But you know the NRA is against having this put into place with gun manufacturers. I think its a great idea.

Just as with motor vehicle safety. Add more technology/add a couple or more zero's to the price. A good dependable handgun is not what I consider to be cheap purchase right now. I belong to the NRA and I seen nothing in the many things they send me about being against technology.

Looked at all the people that were killed and critically injured because GM decided saving $16 on an ignition switch was more important than their customers lives. And some talk about the NRA?

hckynut(john)

SydneyH · ‎03-10-2010

@Hoovermom wrote:
The King has declared.................

Honestly, he knows this is a toothless measure but I guess it will appease some.

JustJazzmom · ‎03-09-2010

@hckynutjohn wrote:
@JustJazzmom wrote:
Guns should have the ability to only fire if the owner has it in their hands (this will cut down on accidental obtaining of guns by those who steal them out of homes or of children handling them).

But you know the NRA is against having this put into place with gun manufacturers. I think its a great idea.

Just as with motor vehicle safety. Add more technology/add a couple or more zero's to the price. A good dependable handgun is not what I consider to be cheap purchase right now. I belong to the NRA and I seen nothing in the many things they send me about being against technology.

Looked at all the people that were killed and critically injured because GM decided saving $16 on an ignition switch was more important than their customers lives. And some talk about the NRA?

hckynut(john)

The number of people killed due to a faulty ignition switch does not compare to the number accidental shootings/ deaths of people caused by toddlers, children and adults getting a hold of someone else's gun and firing it.

I would be in favor of adding more zeroes into the price for this kind of technology-- if it saves toddlers and children from being accidentally shot by other toddlers/children who happen to get a hold of the firearm, it would be worth it. I'm interested in saving lives; not lining the pockets of the lobbyists and gun manufacturers in this country who benefit from this technology not being put into place.

☼The best place to seek God is in a garden. You can dig for him there. GBShaw☼

esmeraldagooch · ‎03-10-2010

@Maudelynn wrote:
Background checks. Bring it on!
Let's hope it has an impact. We'll never know if we don't try.

These were already there..... It's federal law.

Look at anything he comes up with and ask yourself. If this was already done earlier in the year, would it have had any impact on stopping even one gun death this year. If so which one and why? Gun killings daily on the street in Chicago, San Bernadino, Chatanooga Marine reserve center, Charleston Church shooting?

Lila Belle · ‎01-24-2013

@esmeraldagooch wrote:
@Maudelynn wrote:
Background checks. Bring it on!
Let's hope it has an impact. We'll never know if we don't try.
These were already there..... It's federal law.

Look at anything he comes up with and ask yourself. If this was already done earlier in the year, would it have had any impact on stopping even one gun death this year. If so which one and why? Gun killings daily on the street in Chicago, San Bernadino, Chatanooga Marine reserve center, Charleston Church shooting?

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Yeah, look at everything he's tried to do and ask yourself if it were another president would it have easily passed into law.... ?

esmeraldagooch · ‎03-10-2010

@Lila Belle wrote:
@esmeraldagooch wrote:
@Maudelynn wrote:
Background checks. Bring it on!
Let's hope it has an impact. We'll never know if we don't try.
These were already there..... It's federal law.

Look at anything he comes up with and ask yourself. If this was already done earlier in the year, would it have had any impact on stopping even one gun death this year. If so which one and why? Gun killings daily on the street in Chicago, San Bernadino, Chatanooga Marine reserve center, Charleston Church shooting?
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Yeah, look at everything he's tried to do and ask yourself if it were another president would it have easily passed into law.... ?

Going after the real reason's or using EO and bypassing congress. That is not a passed law.

deepwaterdotter · ‎03-09-2010

@hckynutjohn wrote:
@deepwaterdotter wrote:
I underwent a background check when I purchased my firearm, it was painless and went smoothly. I didn't feel violated or intruded upon.

I had a background check when I purchased mine also. Then a much more thorough and "Expensive" one when I applied for State CCW Permit. Since I am not a felon and my last ticket(speeding) was in 1960? What further background check would/could be done?

Also had to take a written test, and pass it. An 8 hour class of State laws and rules, along with handgun safely. Next day was 4 hours of learning how to clean and maintain your firearm (disassemble/assemble ), and difference in types of bullets.

Half of that 4 hour class was on the firing range. Had pop-up/still and moving targets. Had to fire 75 rounds at them. If you didn't hit over 80% of targets? You flunked, no CCW Permit obtained. Seems like a good and thorough enough background check to me.

hckynut(john)

That sounds very similar to the Concealed Carry training that my husband and I completed last year at a shooting facility in Wisconsin. We paid around $50 each for training from a retired Milwaukee police officer. And our permits are valid in many other states.

Tinkrbl44 · ‎08-23-2010

@YorkieonmyPillow wrote:
@Tinkrbl44 wrote:
@YorkieonmyPillow wrote:
All that is doing is harassing ordinary citizens.
Gang members and other criminals don't prance to a gun shop to buy firearms.
How ridiculous and he can say or do whatever he wants but he won't disarm the US although I'm sure he'll give it the old college try.....

You don't have to do a background check to purchase a gun.

Well, you sure have an odd idea about what "harassing" is ...... a person has to take a written test and then a driving test to get a drivers license, and most people don't consider that to be harassment ...... if a person is a good candidate for a firearm, having a background check shouldn't be a problem. People have to look at the big picture here.
People also need to look at history and how people have fared when their ability to defend themselves was removed......I could understand if people were worried about guns in the hands of criminals and gangs, but they never talk about that. I never hear any discussion about how to collect guns from the criminal element of society - I guess because they know it's impossible - yet they want regular people to have background checks.

None of it makes any sense, people are aware of that, and that's why gun sales are up.

No one is saying "regular people" can't have guns, so I'm not sure why you have your shorts in a knot over this.

This country needs to do a multitude of things to protect its citizens, whether you own a gun or not.

terrier3 · ‎03-10-2010

@YorkieonmyPillow wrote:
People also need to look at history and how people have fared when their ability to defend themselves was removed......I could understand if people were worried about guns in the hands of criminals and gangs, but they never talk about that. I never hear any discussion about how to collect guns from the criminal element of society - I guess because they know it's impossible - yet they want regular people to have background checks.

None of it makes any sense, people are aware of that, and that's why gun sales are up.

We can easily look at what has happened in Australia and England - not to mention Canada - to see that control works well in countries with people similar to Americans.

Australia was founded as a penal colony for England - with LOTS of tough customers. If they could enforce restrictions, so can we. It took a while after they enacted tougher laws in 1995 (or so). But 20-25 years later, the following occured: By 2010-2014, the entire gun related homicides across all of Australia had dropped to 30-40 per year. Firearms in 2014 were used in less than 15% of homicides, less than 0.1% of sexual assaults, less than 6% of kidnapping/abductions and only 8% of robberies.

In fact, the first laws in the USA were in the Wild West - townspeople got fed up with violence and enacted laws forcing people to turn in their weapons before going into town. So it DOES work, and has even in the USA, when you look at history.