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[Ibby114]

On 7/3/2014 SydneyH said:

I'm not terribly familiar with Chelsea Handler, but the Carson/Rivers feud was pretty public back in the day. As with most disputes, I believe that Carson's ego and River's poor timing in letting him know about her opportunity is to blame.

That sums it up perfectly. Personally, I think if it had been a man getting his own show Johnny wouldn't have reacted so strongly.

[Ibby114]

On 7/3/2014 tansy said: Johnny was great entertainment but I'm sure he was a bear to deal with in private life, although he and Letterman seemed to have a good relationship. Leno carried on the feud with Joan for some reason. Raven, what happened to your post?

Because he has no backbone- even after Johnny's death! Like NBC would hold it against him.... !!!

[hckynut]

I have no idea who this Chelsea Handler might be, but I do know that Joan hosted the Tonight Show because I seldom missed it in the Johnny Carson years of the show.

Doesn't sound like it will be a great loss to Joan if this person doesn't talk with her anymore. I could say some other things, but!!

[isaboo]

On 7/3/2014 BlueCollarBabe said:

Bottom line - CH is not funny and JR is hysterical!! Love JR. CH simply stands (or sits) there looking bored and talking about how much she drinks and who she sleeps with.

I'm with you on this. I don't understand what about CH is funny? She just seems unhappy and in a bad mood (?)

I agree with JR. she was the first and I still find her funny!

[physicsnut]

Joan was also correct in the CNN interview when she ended it!!!

[Vamp]

On 7/3/2014 terrier3 said:

On 7/3/2014 brii said:

Chelsea Handler is just an angry, nasty person. I really don't like her.

It's strange she is so close to Jennifer Aniston.

I actually think LESS of Jennifer for having her for a BFF.

Her TV persona may not be the same as the private person. I'm not defending CH; I'm just offering that as a possible explanation for the unlikely pairing. For that matter, who knows what Jennifer Aniston is like privately? Unless one is a close personal friend, we'll probably never know what some of these people are like in their personal lives...despite what People magazine, reality & talk shows, etc. project.

As for Chelsea and Joan--it really seems like a silly thing to be arguing about. Women should support each other rather than bicker. We are already at a disadvantage simply because of our gender. That kind of pettiness just fuels the fire in a world that already doesn't take most women seriously.

[Lucky Charm]

After all the nasty things Joan River's says for the sake of getting laughs *cough* money, the only good thing about her is that she's eighty-one years old. Ha Ha.

[Moonlady]

On 7/3/2014 RainCityGirl said:

On 7/3/2014 Moonlady said:

On 7/3/2014 RainCityGirl said:

On 7/3/2014 Moonlady said:

On 7/3/2014 RainCityGirl said:

On 7/3/2014 terrier3 said:

On 7/3/2014 deepwaterdotter said:

Ms. Rivers was a "fill-in", Ms. Handler was 'full-time'. You decide.

You forgot that Joan had her own late night show on Fox for a short while. It was HER show.

You are correct! That's the reason Johnny Carson launched his vendetta in Hollywood against her and why she moved back to NY, plus why her husband committed suicide. He blamed himself for the demise of the show. I saw her late night show live a couple of times in LA. I also have seen Johnny's show live. Personally, I enjoyed Joan's more. It was more current in its guests, more hip. Incidentally, she was not vulgar on that show either...the difference between then and now. I don't find Chelsea Handler entertaining at all. Her show was mainly about, body parts, drinking and drugging, her "her secks life," and demeaning comments and actions using her staff.

Again, not true. Joan had been Carson's regular sub, yet he learned of her new show when she appeared at a Fox press conference. Then she called him, and he hung up on her.

Given the fact that she was his regular fill-in host, and that she, herself, always said she owed her career to him, it was pretty tacky to not have let him know.

I guess it depends on which version you believe.

American Masters on PBS covered it well. Check it when it airs again.

Is that the gospel of late night television rifts?

RainCityGirl, it was simply a suggestion. I'm assuming you missed it, or you would have noticed JR (who interestingly appears on almost every tribute to JC) singing an entirely different tune.