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[ValentinaBon]

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Why is this far and away an American problem?  

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Maybe because all the things I mentioned are not being done well enough here, but are being done better in other places? 

Maybe because we tend to isolate here, and in other places they feel more a sense of community?

Maybe because we don't address mental health here in as extensive a manner as in other places? 

Maybe because in some places certain things aren't reported the same as here, and we are comparing apples to oranges?

Maybe because we have a much more diverse population here than many other places do, which can lead to misunderstanding and intolerance and make people feel the need to lash out in ways like this? 

I can pretty much guess what you think the reason is, but rarely is something happening for one single isolated reason. 

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And maybe because some places have stricter punishments for crimes and people are unable/unavailable to re offend. 

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 @Mominohio I swear you are reading my mind!!! 

[TenderMercies]

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@Mominohiowrote:

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@tansywrote:

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@ValentinaBonwrote:

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@Mominohiowrote:

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@Soonerwrote:

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@cherrywrote:

The only better, is funding for  decent  school security ,and  laws about selling semi automatic weapons to people not in law enforcement...

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You can't stop people from getting weapons--automatic or otherwise.  You have to figure out how to protect from them,how to identify potential situations and violent people, and why our children are prone to violence.

We can play like there is this simple answer but there really isn't.  What so many people are advocating isn't really getting at the heart of the problem at all.  It won't change much.

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This is what people don't want to believe or understand. You will never stop the guns. You can make them all illegal, but you won't stop them. 

But if more focus, money, marching, and wailing was put on security, mental health, bullying, awareness, reporting and FOLLOWING UP ON THAT REPORTING (which totally failed here), we would make a bigger impact on the problem. 

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YES, this! A gazillion hearts.

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Why is this far and away an American problem?  

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Maybe because all the things I mentioned are not being done well enough here, but are being done better in other places? 

Maybe because we tend to isolate here, and in other places they feel more a sense of community?

Maybe because we don't address mental health here in as extensive a manner as in other places? 

Maybe because in some places certain things aren't reported the same as here, and we are comparing apples to oranges?

Maybe because we have a much more diverse population here than many other places do, which can lead to misunderstanding and intolerance and make people feel the need to lash out in ways like this? 

I can pretty much guess what you think the reason is, but rarely is something happening for one single isolated reason. 

Edited to add

And maybe because some places have stricter punishments for crimes and people are unable/unavailable to re offend. 

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@Mominohio Tougher sentences?  You think when someone decides to shoot up a school full of kids they're going to be like, "Oh no, I'd better not, or I might get a longer prison sentence."  Please.

[Sooner]

Hope is not a plan.  Schools need to take a lot of steps right now to make security for the students the number one priority.  They need to secure the campus and get guards. 

[QueenDanceALot]

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@Soonerwrote:

Hope is not a plan.  Schools need to take a lot of steps right now to make security for the students the number one priority.  They need to secure the campus and get guards. 

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I agree.  This needs to be the IMMEDIATE priority.  

Buckets of rocks isn't going to help anyone, arming teachers is an equally horrendous "solution", but securing the schools and having professionals equipped to guard the schools are the only way to help protect childrens' lives in the immediate.

The talk talk talk and back and forth ad nauseum just looks like a lot of ****** footing and doesn't look to be changing into anything meaningful in the foreseen future.  

[151949]

I feel if we would devote the funds to care for our mentally ill in the USA this problem would be solved. How many times these shooters are someone trying to commit suicide or have another mental illness. It's a rare thing that they are terrorists. They are people who are at the end of their rope due to mental illness and in their demented mind this is what to do.

[gidgetgh]

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@QueenDanceALotwrote:

And I just heard that a senator suggests that all students should know CPR so they can help fellow students who have been shot in an attack.

That's an elected official.

No wonder we're in trouble.

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@QueenDanceALot- former senator, but that doesn’t negate the absolute ridiculousness of his suggestion. 

[QueenDanceALot]

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@gidgetghwrote:

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@QueenDanceALotwrote:

And I just heard that a senator suggests that all students should know CPR so they can help fellow students who have been shot in an attack.

That's an elected official.

No wonder we're in trouble.

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@QueenDanceALot- former senator, but that doesn’t negate the absolute ridiculousness of his suggestion. 

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@gidgetgh

O.K., former senator.  My bad.

[shoekitty]

At least someone is actually doing something besides prayers and good thoughts. it is something they can do without a lot of approvals, laws, bureaucracy and such.  Jmho

[chiclet]

I have a spaghetti arm.  I would wind up hitting myself with the rock. I would have to roll it slowly to hit my target and then I would be dead.