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[Trinity11]

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@SuhseK wrote:

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@kivah wrote:

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@ECBG wrote:

A wonderful client of ours came into the store today.  She is a nurse at our large hospital. I asked her about what is going on with COVID and she said  the numbers are skewed, which I have read here on the boards.

If someone comes in from a car wreck and happens to test positive; later, he dies from the wreck injuries, because he tested positive for COVID, he is counted as a COVID death not injuries from the wreck that took his life!!!!!!  AMAZING!!!

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I just had a travel nurse stay with me for 5 months - working at a hospital 5 minutes from my house. She told me they count every person who dies - as dying from COVID - as they get more money from insurance companies. So - if u die from cancer, old age, etc. ur a statistic. Such FRAUD.

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I flat out, do not believe this!  Doctor's sign death certificates.  No reputable Dr. is going to put their license, their life's career, on the line to falsify death certificates. 

I find the suggestion that every death, is reported as Covid, ridiculous! 

Hospitals are subjected to oversite.  If they reported every death, as due to Covid, it would quickly come to attention and be investigated.  

Dr's are subject to oversite; from their medication prescribing practices, to keeping current with charting and maintaining records.  If they were recording an unusually high number of patient deaths, as Covid, again, it would attract attention and investigating.  

Hospitals have panels, that regularly, review in house patient deaths.  Cases come to their attention, that, for instance, could involve medical error, misdiagnosis, questions on cause of death, etc.  Families, for instance, may question their loved ones, course of treatment, or actual cause of death, so the case is reviewed, 

I'm an RD, in our State's 2nd largest hospital, bed wise.  So, I am certainly no Covid expert.  I do have many nurse friends, and I've never had one of them mention concerns about Covid reporting.  

I also question how, nurses, unless, perhaps, they were in an administration position, would have access to wide scale, misreporting.  Floor nurses work on the units, direct patient care.  They would have nothing to do with, nor access to, how the hospital is reporting patient deaths.  

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I agree with you @SuhseK . Floor nurses have nothing to do with how the hospital is reporting patient deaths. That nurse is clearly motivated for her own reasons to embellish her own viewpoint on the situation.

There is a certain network promoting the unsubstantiated silliness about deaths being shifted to Covid 19 because it suits their political agenda. 

[ECBG]

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@scatcat wrote:

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@shoekitty wrote:

Well there cantbe that many people dying in a car accident, with posative covid results.  Just saying.  

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I agree. And who swabs a car accident dead person for Covid? Is every person who dies every day for whatever reason being tested for Covid? Seems far fetched.

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@scatcat The nurse wasn't speaking about car deaths.  She was indicating that those who entered the hospital for a medical issue were swabbed as a precaution, to protect others around them.  

I would imagine, if one had one illness AND the virus, the call for the exact reason of death would be very difficult.  The virus could cause the pneumonia, the person that passes, what killed them?  It seems 50/50 to those of us on the outside.

The nurse does wear a mask.

[Meladen]

I don't understand why so many people believe there is some grand conspiracy to inflate COVID deaths substantially.  I know in my state, the health director indicated that with the raw data, they count deaths where people are COVID positive, but then, they do a deeper dive, and where it is clear that the cause was really something else, those cases are removed from the count.  The initial data released is not always the final data, as they have to do more investigation to make sure the totals are as accurate as possible.  It took weeks to confirm that an infant that died did, in fact, die of COVID.  The problem is that COVID causes so many different types of problems, and can affect the body in so many different ways, it can be difficult to parse out when COVID hastened the demise of someone with other issues that could have killed them, when someone died of something else completely and the COVID didn't impact them substantially, or when it's somewhere in between. 

[Bridgegal]

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@Anonymous032819 wrote:

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@ECBG wrote:

A wonderful client of ours came into the store today.  She is a nurse at our large hospital. I asked her about what is going on with COVID and she said  the numbers are skewed, which I have read here on the boards.

If someone comes in from a car wreck and happens to test positive; later, he dies from the wreck injuries, because he tested positive for COVID, he is counted as a COVID death not injuries from the wreck that took his life!!!!!!  AMAZING!!!

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@ECBG 

This does not come as a surprise to me.

In fact, some of us have been saying that this is what's happening, for a while now.

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    THose are probably balanced out by the Covid deaths that happen at home that aren't counted and those in nursing homes that arent' counted.  

[germanshepherdlove]

@Meladen if that's really the case then a whole lot of death certificates are completely wrong.  I think that's what gets people angry.....when they receive the death certificate of a loved one and know for a fact what they died from.  That never gets corrected.  

[CrazyDaisy]

Anyone going to a hospital is tested.

[hckynut]

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@mousiegirl wrote:

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@Janey2   Usually, many of the health issues are listed, which all contributed to death.

@mousiegirl 

That may be true where you live. According to the 2 doctors in my family, that work at 3 local hospitals, that is not the case. Only 1 cause is listed as to what caused their deaths.

hckynut(john)

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[germanshepherdlove]

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@CrazyDaisy wrote:

Anyone going to a hospital is tested.

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@CrazyDaisy Obviously.  Many however contract covid AFTER being admitted and then die.  

[Porcelain]

This exact same story genre came up when NYC had big spikes in deaths. And it was used to say that nothing was going on and that people weren't dying. Same folks who also called it just a flu and talked about car and plane accidents. They were wrong then. I have no reason to grant them credibility now.

It's always some big conspiracy that means that Covid isn't a big deal and it isn't killing anyone. It's never a conspiracy that results in anything else. The consistency of the end message, the moral of the story, and the recommendation that we ignore and do nothing is what shows it for what it really is.

[CrazyDaisy]

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@germanshepherdlove wrote:

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@CrazyDaisy wrote:

Anyone going to a hospital is tested.

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@CrazyDaisy Obviously.  Many however contract covid AFTER being admitted and then die.  

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Cute how you cut off the discussion I was replying......

Exactly how many that come in testing negative, catch the virus in the hospital, then die from it?  Talk about a stretch.....a huge stretch.