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[brewhaha]

He has pe-less envy.

[NoelSeven]

On 1/31/2015 Anniecamp said:

This story was no surprise to me. I thought he looked ultra feminine even back in the Olympics. It was also obvious almost immediately after the marriage split that he wanted to look like a woman. I don't know how anyone could not have noticed.

It does bother me though, that he married, had children, etc., when he knew long ago. He could have remained a "bachelor" rather than mess with other people's lives. Very fraudulent behavior in my book.

As for those who feel sorry for him being rejected by some, if it bothered him that much, he wouldn't be doing a reality show.

2015 is a very different time than even 10 years ago, let alone when Jenner was a young man.

[WhereAreThey]

Why a reality show? obviously no better than his ex wife Kris who is capitalizing on watching a freak show.

[Anniecamp]

I was referring to posters who are feeling sorry for him because he's coming out, not years ago. However, I still think that people should not marry and have children when they know how they feel. It's just deceitful. He could have stayed single. A lot of people never marry, even without any of those situations. jmo, that's all.

[NoelSeven]

On 1/31/2015 Anniecamp said:

I was referring to posters who are feeling sorry for him because he's coming out, not years ago. However, I still think that people should not marry and have children when they know how they feel. It's just deceitful. He could have stayed single. A lot of people never marry, even without any of those situations. jmo, that's all.

I did understand what you were saying, Annie It's safer for him to come out now, more so than ever before.

I assume he married and had children for the same reason others did, pressure from friends and family and a hope that he could change himself.

[missy1]

It was obvious. I believe BJ wanted to start his new journey earlier, but was waiting until his youngest was almost an adult. Kylie turns 18 this year. It will be hard for the grandchildren to grasp. He needs to find happiness.

[Gooday]

I worked with a gal who married a man who was 13 years older than her. He was divorced and had 4 daughters. As the marriage progressed, he started drinking more and more. At this time she had 2 young daughters. One day he blurted out that he was a cross-dresser. Her life was forever changed. It took her 2-3 years to get her financial ducks in a row before she divorced. They tried counseling with his ex and his older daughters. What a hot mess!

[mousiegirl]

On 1/31/2015 NoelSeven said:

Gay and trans people marry and have kids because they feel the pressure to appear normal. Because friends and family expect it of them.

They also do it because they feel ashamed of who they are, or because people have wrongly told them it's possible to change. They try. They fail. Many want to kill themselves because it didn't work.

The man we know, I told his story on this line, was told by the woman who fell in love with him that their church could change him. He had joined the church for that very reason. His wife had been told his proclivity before they married. He tried and tried and was treated for serious clinical depression. He finally told her he couldn't fake it any longer.

Once again, all that could have been avoided if only there was no pressure for El Gee Bee Tee people to change who they are.

They usually do not continue to marry women though, as Bruce has done.

[Gooday]

A therapist explained to my friend that her DH was a lezzbian turned inside out?????

He was a raging alcoholic but when she agreed to play dress up with him, he was as sober and as sweet as could be. She used that to her advantage until she couldn't stand it any more. His goal was to stay married to her and when he retired, he wanted to move to Florida and live as a woman. He did get his home in Florida after they divorced.

[NoelSeven]

On 1/31/2015 mousiegirl said:

On 1/31/2015 NoelSeven said:

Gay and trans people marry and have kids because they feel the pressure to appear normal. Because friends and family expect it of them.

They also do it because they feel ashamed of who they are, or because people have wrongly told them it's possible to change. They try. They fail. Many want to kill themselves because it didn't work.

The man we know, I told his story on this line, was told by the woman who fell in love with him that their church could change him. He had joined the church for that very reason. His wife had been told his proclivity before they married. He tried and tried and was treated for serious clinical depression. He finally told her he couldn't fake it any longer.

Once again, all that could have been avoided if only there was no pressure for El Gee Bee Tee people to change who they are.

They usually do not continue to marry women though, as Bruce has done.

Some do. A first wife may not accept a marriage with dwindling relations and will eventually leave the man. Have you heard of beards? Some women go along with it, especially if money is involved. I suspect that might have been the case with Tom Cruise.