Re: Bernie Madoff Terminally Ill Seeks Compassiona... - Page 10

novamc1 · ‎07-02-2015

Maybe too much is implied in the term "compassionate release", and that friendly-sounding word is irritating to many folks.

Also, imagine that he's taking a huge cocktail of drugs for his medical issues and has, at this point, become somewhat demented and nuts.

Here's one bit of Wikipedia info about compassionate releases (which also go by other terms).:

<<Compassionate Release
Compassionate release is a process by which inmates in criminal justice systems may be eligible for immediate early release on grounds of "particularly extraordinary or compelling circumstances which could not reasonably have been foreseen by the court at the time of sentencing". Compassionate release procedures, which are also known as medical release, medical parole, medical furlough and humanitarian parole, can be mandated by the courts or by internal corrections authorities. Unlike parole, compassionate release is not based on a prisoner's behavior or sentencing, but on medical or humanitarian changes in the prisoner's situation.

NicksmomESQ · ‎08-19-2014

I would show him the same measure of compassion,that he showed all the people, that he scammed out of their life savings!!

He deserves to die in jail.

suzyQ3 · ‎03-09-2010

@novamc1 wrote:
Maybe too much is implied in the term "compassionate release", and that friendly-sounding word is irritating to many folks.

Also, imagine that he's taking a huge cocktail of drugs for his medical issues and has, at this point, become somewhat demented and nuts.

Here's one bit of Wikipedia info about compassionate releases (which also go by other terms).:

<<Compassionate Release
Compassionate release is a process by which inmates in criminal justice systems may be eligible for immediate early release on grounds of "particularly extraordinary or compelling circumstances which could not reasonably have been foreseen by the court at the time of sentencing". Compassionate release procedures, which are also known as medical release, medical parole, medical furlough and humanitarian parole, can be mandated by the courts or by internal corrections authorities. Unlike parole, compassionate release is not based on a prisoner's behavior or sentencing, but on medical or humanitarian changes in the prisoner's situation.

Interesting, @novamc1. I wonder what the stats are when it comes to who gets this type of release in terms of wealthy and/or notoriety.

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novamc1 · ‎07-02-2015

Maybe one question to ponder is....do we want our prisons full of old sick people or do we want the space occupied by other convicts who actually stand some chance of being rehabilitated and returned to productive lives when their sentence is up?

After all, one theory behind the Butner facility was an environment where nonviolent criminals could be rehabillitated.. He's past that point, now, and will probably never walk the streets openly again.

By the way, not everyone gets out of there. At least one or two inmates there are serving life sentences for treason against the U.S. They achieved headline-making fame in their heyday for spying on behalf of foreign adversaries.

alliswell · ‎07-12-2012

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novamc1 · ‎07-02-2015

Don't know if I should dare post one more thought......

It's unlikely a prison medical facility can render the right care to some patients with serious problems. If things are bad enough, patients probably have to be transported to a nearby hospital---more money, time and trouble for the staff.

Then there's the possible issue of what constitutes "cruel and unusual punishment". Wonder if that's considered when very sick people are kept in jail lacking adequate medical attention. Their lawyers can probably raise bloody heck over that.

Porcelain · ‎02-19-2014

Sure. Show him that mercy. BUT. He needs to wait his turn and get the same exact treatment as everyone else. Don't you dare give him a bed that could have gone to someone else who lacks resources to advocate for their own humane treatment.

If he deserves mercy, everyone else does too. I'd like to see him advocating for compassionalte release for everyone else in his facility in the same circumstances. If he thinks it's just for him, then heck no he can rot like anyone else.

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Sushismom · ‎03-09-2010

Interestingly, I read that Madoff has refused dialysis. "He has chronic kidney failure that has progressed to end stage renal disease," the summary said. "At this level of renal failure, the kidneys can no longer filter body waste. He has refused dialysis."

This comes from a medical summary submitted by a physician's assistant and reviewed by a prison doctor.

ETA: Stage 5 chronic kidney disease is largely synonomous with end-stage kidney disease.

Chatyone 2 · ‎04-23-2010

You know earlier I said no.. but after thinking this over.. its not for me to judge and make that decision.. He did wrong . okay but he is dying and we are supposed to forgive one another.. so I am saying let him go home to die.. I am sure he has lost everything including a son.. let him be.

novamc1 · ‎07-02-2015

If he's released as a show of "mercy", it's probably merciful to the prison staff.

He might be getting kicked out, not let out, if his condition is beyond the prison's ability to deal with it.

Early releases like this are not always orchestrated by lawyers, but by the prison staff, who apparently have the right to decide when someone ought to leave.