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[aroc3435]

@skatting44   Thank you for sharing the link to that enlightening piece.  Much to absorb.

aroc34

Washington, DC

[Porcelain]

Yesterday two guys got arrested one town over from mine. It's the suburbs. Shot each other during an argument outside a bar. Pretty predictable. At least they missed the bystanders.

[skatting44]

 A very good book on the subject  available on Amazon  by Jillian Petersen PH.d and James Densley . Winner of the  2022 Minnesota book award

" The Violence Project : How to stop a Mass Shooting Epidemic. "

" An examination of the phenomenon of mass shootings in America and an urgent call to implement evidence-based strategies to stop these tragedies "

"Their goal was to establish the root causes of mass shootings and figure out how to stop them by examining hundreds of data points in the life histories of more than 170 mass shooters—from their childhood and adolescence to their mental health and motives. They’ve also interviewed the living perpetrators of mass shootings and people who knew them, shooting survivors, victims’ families, first responders, and leading experts to gain a comprehensive firsthand understanding of the real stories behind them, rather than the sensationalized media narratives that too often prevail.  "

 

[beach-mom]

I saw the city. One of DH's friends from a long time ago lives there. I've never been, but I got the impression it was a comfortable, close-knit town. 

Prayers for everyone in harm's way there.

[september]

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@scatcat wrote:

Did the shooter commit suicide?

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I heard he did

[hckynutjohn]

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@gertrudecloset wrote:

Here we go again.  Senseless.......

Officers were dispatched to the Safeway at the Forum Shopping Center shortly after 7 p.m. after receiving reports of shots fired, the Bend Police Department said in a statement.

@gertrudecloset 

Is this the place where 2 innocents were killed, and the perp?  Senseless is much kinder than words I commonly use.

hckynut  🇺🇸

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[Sooner]

Not to mention the on-going gang violence that is so rampant in many cities, and has been for decades.  Not stopping this has led to an underlying acceptance of violence at a certain level. It's coming back to bite us. 

[Porcelain]

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@Sooner wrote:

Not to mention the on-going gang violence that is so rampant in many cities, and has been for decades.  Not stopping this has led to an underlying acceptance of violence at a certain level. It's coming back to bite us. 

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I don't think the hotheads who shot each other outside a bar near me were influenced by law enforcement policies about gangs in other states.

I think they were just mad and drunk and had guns right to hand.

Sometimes the simplest explanation is best.

Maybe people around you have developed acceptance of violence at a certain level, and for the reasons you state. I have not.

[gertrudecloset]

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@Sooner wrote:

Not to mention the on-going gang violence that is so rampant in many cities, and has been for decades.  Not stopping this has led to an underlying acceptance of violence at a certain level. It's coming back to bite us. 

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@Sooner You need to understand that gangs are "organized crime."  Lone wolves (not militia groups or gangs work in tandem) are the problem in this thread.  Individuals who are mad at the world (for whatever reason) who want to take it out on everyone around them.  At least before you comment, know what you're talking about.  Gangs ARE ORGANIZED CRIME like the MAFIA.

They protect their turf; fight for their turf, kill rival gang members over their turf and other such awful things.  This is not the same as Bob going into a school, supermarket, workplace to shoot people.

[Sooner]

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@gertrudecloset wrote:

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@Sooner wrote:

Not to mention the on-going gang violence that is so rampant in many cities, and has been for decades.  Not stopping this has led to an underlying acceptance of violence at a certain level. It's coming back to bite us. 

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@Sooner You need to understand that gangs are "organized crime."  Lone wolves (not militia groups or gangs work in tandem) are the problem in this thread.  Individuals who are mad at the world (for whatever reason) who want to take it out on everyone around them.  At least before you comment, know what you're talking about.  Gangs ARE ORGANIZED CRIME like the MAFIA.

They protect their turf; fight for their turf, kill rival gang members over their turf and other such awful things.  This is not the same as Bob going into a school, supermarket, workplace to shoot people.

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@gertrudecloset So sorry you are having to spend so much time correcting me today.  .  .And I can agree with you.   But then we'd both be wrong!