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[Sooner]

To me the issue here should not be "who did it" because that's for the police and legal system.

The point is any gun can kill.  It is important that people understand that and talk about that.  The critical factor is that anyone anywhere anytime should never point a weapon at an innocent person.  And certainly that would be any weapon that YOU have not verified as safe.

Never point a weapon at someone!  And NEVER pick up or take a weapon without checking to see if it is loaded.  Less than 15 seconds could have saved a life:  Saved a mother and a wife.  It is tragic. 

[Ladybug724]

I am by no means an an Alec Baldwin fan, but I feel sorry for him. I'm sure he did not intentionally murder anyone and this must be a brutal thing to deal with.

[Alsace Gal]

I suggest you do your own research, I did mine.

[Linmo]

If someone handed me a gun for a stunt, I would not know how to check the ammo for live bullets or blanks.  Professional people are hired for that and if they tell an actor that a gun is cold,  the actor shouldn't be expected to try and figure out if that's true or not.

[Skyegirl21]

On some network, they interviewed a gun specialist who showed a gun exactly like he one used. That movie was using an OLD revolver type gun - And they guy said, on that particular type of old style gun, that you can SEE from the outside, that it was loaded-  That's what I heard... 

[Linmo]

It's hard to believe it's been over 3 months since this happened!  Halyna's family filed  a civil suit today against Baldwin, the other producers, the prop handlers and others.  Alec has recently returned to work and is out of the country on his new project.

[hckynutjohn]

Nobody that is unfamiliar with how a hand gun operates and it's proper usage, should ever put themselves in a position such as AB. 

Anyone that has even a basic knowledge of a hand gun, knows you never point the hand gun at any living thing, unless you are planning to use it for a specific reason. 

For someone who has played, I assume, several roles where a hand gun was used? You would expect that person to possess more than a basic knowledge of how it should and should not be used.

Regardless of the fact I may have checked my own hand gun since I last used it, and found it to be safe? There is no way if I decided to pick it up now, I would not check it again before handling it. And nobody handles my hand gun but myself.

I couldn't care less who checked a hand gun before handing it to me. My first move would be to check it myself to make sure it was safe to handle.

Anyone that makes a claim to understand a hand gun, and does not follow each safety step themselves? They havr no business putting it into their hand, much less pointing it at any living animal or human.

I know only the details I have seen on the media, including AB 's interview on 1 of the major tv networks. Having heard him say "I didn't pull the trigger", and  paraphrasing, "I feel no way responsible"! You can decide what you believe, but having seen him, in other shorter news clips, say something completely different? 

Will wait till all the evidence comes out and see where it goes from there. Being a hand gun owner and user, I know the proper procedure to handle any of them, at any time.

 #1 Always check the chamber to make sure it is empty.

#2 Never point a hand gun at any living thing unless you are planning to pull the trigger.

#3 Never put you finger inside the trigger guard, or on the trigger, unless you are planning to fire it.

#4 With a revolver similar to what was used here. It is easier to see if there are any cartridges in the gun, especially if one is chambered. 

hckynut  🇺🇸

[Cakers3]

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@Ladybug724 wrote:

I am by no means an an Alec Baldwin fan, but I feel sorry for him. I'm sure he did not intentionally murder anyone and this must be a brutal thing to deal with.

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@Ladybug724   No, of course he didn't intend to kill Halyna.  However, that is not the point.

Regardless of being handed a "cold gun", he still should have checked.  The lawsuit not only includes wrongful death but the careless way the weapons were handled on the set.

As far as his "dealing with this"???  Watch the interview with him and Stephanoplous (sp).

He said he did not feel responsible and actually blamed Halyna.

SHE told him to point the gun near her armpit.  He never pulled the trigger.

What a guy.

[Cakers3]

For somebody who has been so outspoken against the NRA and against gun rights, Baldwin sure doesn't mind using gun violence in his movies.

Which, of course, add more millions to his bank account.

What a guy.

[Katcat1]

All I know is a gun doesn't fire itself.  Baldwin said he did not pull the trigger.  There is only one thing and that is a human being is dead.