Re: Aaron Hernandez

JobGirl · ‎12-30-2010

I was shocked, and then it turned into sadness,” said juror Rosita Londono.

The trial, which lasted seven weeks, ended in the jury finding Hernandez not guilty in the murders of Daniel de Abreu and Safiro Furtado in Boston in 2012.

“Watching his demeanor in court every day, just observing him and thinking ‘this guy cannot be guilty,’ that was just my perception of it, and then learning this morning that he had committed suicide, it’s just really hard for me to swallow,” Londono said.

Another brilliant juror -this is following the law for jury instruction ?

No wonder they found him not guilty

Baez sure knows how to pick a jury.....

goldensrbest · ‎03-10-2010

He was a very bad person, the patriots new he was bad ,but because of his talent they gave him a chance, he killed his friend,a man that looked up to him, but he did not give a hoot , glad he is gone.

When you lose some one you L~O~V~E, that Memory of them, becomes a TREASURE.

sidsmom · ‎11-25-2011

Abatement:

I never knew this existed.

Can a Legal Eagle chime in on this?

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(CNN)Aaron Hernandez's murder conviction is expected to be dismissed posthumously because of a legal rule called "abatement."

That would mean, legally speaking, Aaron Hernandez died an innocent man.
Hernandez hanged himself in his prison cell and was found dead early Wednesday morning, the Massachusetts Department of Correction said. Hernandez had been serving a sentence of life in prison without parole after being convicted of the June 2013 murder of Odin Lloyd.

But a court will vacate that conviction because Hernandez's appeal was pending, said Rosanna Cavallaro, a law professor at Suffolk University who has written about abatement.

"The idea is that if an appeal hasn't happened, there's a chance that a conviction has an error in it," she told CNN. "Rather than have someone with that incomplete decision that they're guilty, the state chooses instead to say that conviction is abated -- as if it never had happened."

The conviction's dismissal is "pro forma," or automatic, she said.
Hernandez, who was acquitted last Friday in a separate murder trial, had appealed the Lloyd murder conviction. A date for a hearing had not been set.

The abatement law is "quirky" and "esoteric," Cavallaro said, but not without significant consequences.

Civil lawsuits, in which a harmed party sues for damages, often rely on a criminal conviction as its basis of facts.

"You could piggyback off that criminal conviction to get to the place where you're only litigating damages," Cavallaro said. "Now that's not available anymore."

gabstoomuch · ‎03-16-2010

Such an archaic law. MA has been trying to get it off the books for years, but since that has not happened yet, the vacate rule will apply.

I guess that affects the civil lawsuits the families are in the process of. The Quincy MA lawyer that represents the families says the case will still go forward.

The person that has baffled me through all of this is his girlfriend. She has stuck by him through all the trials, brought his baby to the jail every week, (well, not a baby anymore, she is now 4), called him daily. She was in the courtroom every single day for both trials.

I would see her and think "why? Why are you doing this to yourself and an innocent child?". No rhyme or reason to it. There was no future whatsoever for her with him. She is 26 years old.

It is not like she got to keep his big house she was living in with him. Everything he owned was sold to pay for all these high price lawyers. The Patriots did not have to pay off his contract, so I don't think he had gobs of money to begin with. He played 3 seasons at a rather low (for football) rookie salary. He had just signed a 40 million dollar contract when he got arrested, but he didn't get but a portion of it.

I just do not understand the gf. Who wants a boyfriend that is a murderer?

Edited to add: Tom said is was important he spend the day with his Mom today. I hope she is not at the end. SHe is very sick. She looked awful at the Superbowl. Although my son said Brady did not attend the White House event the last time either. Brady is a friend of Trump's, so I imagine his mother reason is valid.

Irshgrl31201 · ‎03-18-2010

@sidsmom wrote:
Abatement:
I never knew this existed.
Can a Legal Eagle chime in on this?

----------------

(CNN)Aaron Hernandez's murder conviction is expected to be dismissed posthumously because of a legal rule called "abatement."

That would mean, legally speaking, Aaron Hernandez died an innocent man.
Hernandez hanged himself in his prison cell and was found dead early Wednesday morning, the Massachusetts Department of Correction said. Hernandez had been serving a sentence of life in prison without parole after being convicted of the June 2013 murder of Odin Lloyd.

But a court will vacate that conviction because Hernandez's appeal was pending, said Rosanna Cavallaro, a law professor at Suffolk University who has written about abatement.

"The idea is that if an appeal hasn't happened, there's a chance that a conviction has an error in it," she told CNN. "Rather than have someone with that incomplete decision that they're guilty, the state chooses instead to say that conviction is abated -- as if it never had happened."

The conviction's dismissal is "pro forma," or automatic, she said.
Hernandez, who was acquitted last Friday in a separate murder trial, had appealed the Lloyd murder conviction. A date for a hearing had not been set.

The abatement law is "quirky" and "esoteric," Cavallaro said, but not without significant consequences.

Civil lawsuits, in which a harmed party sues for damages, often rely on a criminal conviction as its basis of facts.

"You could piggyback off that criminal conviction to get to the place where you're only litigating damages," Cavallaro said. "Now that's not available anymore."

What difference does it really make? Everyone knows he was guilty. The family can still sue in a civil lawsuit if they choose to and there have been many cases where someone was found not guilty but lost the civil suit because it requires much less. They will easily meet that burden of proof.

Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.
JFK

Nomorebirthdays · ‎06-10-2015

She will get book deals, movie deals, $$$$$$$$$$ she will still cash in.

Irshgrl31201 · ‎03-18-2010

@gabstoomuch wrote:
Such an archaic law. MA has been trying to get it off the books for years, but since that has not happened yet, the vacate rule will apply.

I guess that affects the civil lawsuits the families are in the process of. The Quincy MA lawyer that represents the families says the case will still go forward.

The person that has baffled me through all of this is his girlfriend. She has stuck by him through all the trials, brought his baby to the jail every week, (well, not a baby anymore, she is now 4), called him daily. She was in the courtroom every single day for both trials.

I would see her and think "why? Why are you doing this to yourself and an innocent child?". No rhyme or reason to it. There was no future whatsoever for her with him. She is 26 years old.

It is not like she got to keep his big house she was living in with him. Everything he owned was sold to pay for all these high price lawyers. The Patriots did not have to pay off his contract, so I don't think he had gobs of money to begin with. He played 3 seasons at a rather low (for football) rookie salary. He had just signed a 40 million dollar contract when he got arrested, but he didn't get but a portion of it.

I just do not understand the gf. Who wants a boyfriend that is a murderer?

Sadly there seem to be many. Even girls who weren't even with the person at the time of the murder, only meeting through penpal sites at prisons. I really don't understand Hernandezs girlfriend but I understand penpal chicks even less.

Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.
JFK

JobGirl · ‎12-30-2010

@gabstoomuch wrote:
Such an archaic law. MA has been trying to get it off the books for years, but since that has not happened yet, the vacate rule will apply.

I guess that affects the civil lawsuits the families are in the process of. The Quincy MA lawyer that represents the families says the case will still go forward.

The person that has baffled me through all of this is his girlfriend. She has stuck by him through all the trials, brought his baby to the jail every week, (well, not a baby anymore, she is now 4), called him daily. She was in the courtroom every single day for both trials.

I would see her and think "why? Why are you doing this to yourself and an innocent child?". No rhyme or reason to it. There was no future whatsoever for her with him. She is 26 years old.

It is not like she got to keep his big house she was living in with him. Everything he owned was sold to pay for all these high price lawyers. The Patriots did not have to pay off his contract, so I don't think he had gobs of money to begin with. He played 3 seasons at a rather low (for football) rookie salary. He had just signed a 40 million dollar contract when he got arrested, but he didn't get but a portion of it.

I just do not understand the gf. Who wants a boyfriend that is a murderer?

I have alwasy wonderd the same thing and I think it is because she knew he did it and got rid of the murder weapon for him with the bag she disposed of that night ( claiming she didn't know what was in it )and could have been charged with accessory after the fact if she tried to leave him he could hold that over head if he wanted to

I have always thought she was up to her eyeballs in alot of it aftr the fact-

I mean who doesn't leave a man who kills their sisters boyfriend?