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Re: 11,458 new cases in Florida since yesterday

@Linmo   I don't believe the poster you were replying to lives in one of the half dozen or so hot spot states; either that or she intentionally is turning a blind eye in her eagerness to "educate" us all. 

 

When all this started I watched in shock, then horror, as NYC and surrounding areas' stories unfolded every day on the news. Even with all the detail given, and reading accounts from first responders, it still was something I watched on the news........until the tsunami hit here, where I live, I really didn't understand. 

 

I'm tired of reading advice to "educate" myself. I'm living in the hotspot every day, and I get updated multiple times a day from the hospital I work for. I know what kind of shape we are in, what the age demographic is of our ICU Covid patients, and how we are filling up fast on our capacity. I've lost a long time friend and am watching another friend lose her mother. We've had 3 positive cases (still ongoing) in my immediate office. My daughter's best friend's sister (29 years old!!!!) was admitted to ICU last night. 

 

So Yippee! Some of those ICU patients might not die! But hey they can spend the rest of their years left hooked up on dialysis, or maybe better yet an amputation and some portable oxygen to tote around. 

 

If I sound angry, I am. Enough with this "educate yourself". 

What about stop spreading rainbows when it's still a raging hurricane out there. 

 

 

 

(anger not directed at you Linmo)

 

 

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Re: 11,458 new cases in Florida since yesterday

@SunSprite a Thank You.

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Re: 11,458 new cases in Florida since yesterday

@violann You're welcome. This is never going to get better if we stick our heads in the sand or spin tales that just aren't real. 

 

@Linmo  I went back to my post to edit you out of it. I started off intending to just reply to your post and really got carried away. Of course now my "edit" feature is not working. I'm sorry I tagged you into my rant. My sincere apologies. Heart

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Re: 11,458 new cases in Florida since yesterday

Yesterday afternoon, my husband got an incoming call on his cell phone just as our internet ground to a creaking halt from some unknown ridiculousness in its complicated innards, and the call wound up being dropped.

 

I did a V-E-R-Y-S-L-O-W descent into hysteria, afraid that my LO had taken a turn for the worse and they were trying to reach me. But NO, LO was fine, no one knew why the all was made or who made it, 

 

NEXT- I have my annual visit to the endocrinologist today, and of course, there is a VAST, COMPLICATED, MULTISTEP process to taking care of this. It is a lovely jolly cordial group of great people, and GOING never bothers me, but preparing for a trip into the REAL WORLD is now like participating in a sci-fi flick. 

Gallon sized plastic storage bag, name plainly labeled, insurance card, check for co-pay, mask with fresh filter, gloves disinfectant wipes........

 

My son just called and his car is AGAIN on the fritz.

Can't wait to get safely home and practice my tuba......

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Re: 11,458 new cases in Florida since yesterday


@reiki604 wrote:

@pigletsmom wrote:

For anyone praising NY on their handling of this mess you should now that this thing is in no way over in this state. While we have press conferences acting like something great has been accomplished, the people behind the scenes doing the work 12+ hours a day are already seeing numbers they don't like. And they assume we'll be in an upswing in August. 

 

The one thing they think will help for now is that less people could be on public transit because of nice weather. They're hoping that this way we actually flatten the curve as opposed to before but they for sure aren't banking on that.The thinking is that we could go up in August and then stay at those levels for a while and then spike way up in the fall.

 

Keep yourselves safe people!


Not quite sure what you're trying to say. At the height of the NY infections you complained about NY's reaction and how it wasn't that bad and we didn't need all those restrictions. Now that we have flattened the curve due to those restrictions, you are complaining that things are opening up. Will cases go up due to the loosening of restrictions. Probably because there is no cure or vaccine. It is trial and error to see how far we can open up safely. Nothing is guaranteed.

 

It just seems you want to criticize NY's response no matter what it does. IMHO

 


 

Actually I never said it wasn't serious and I took it seriously long before the leaders in this state did. While they were still acting like it wasn't a big deal I told my 80 year old parents they were done grocery shopping and going out to eat or really going anywhere.

 

What I have a problem with is acting like there weren't better options in shutting every single thing down. I don't appreciate having a governor who shames people who are upset about losing their livelihoods. Not that it should shock me coming from a guy who I don't think has ever even had a mortgage in his name. 

 

You could wander around a grocery or big box store but couldn't drop your dog at a groomer or even have a moblle groomer come. You could build a deck outside your house yourself but if you work construction you couldn't do that by yourself at someone else's home. You can't go visit your kids or grandkids but the boyfriend of the governor's daughter can roll in to town.

 

I'm also pretty mad that we pay experts at all levels to know what's happening and it seems the only person I can find is someone who helps manage a local hospital who had the sense back in December to start ordering tons of PPE. I'm mad at every official in this country who didn't take this seriously from the get go. Maybe if we had we could have protected the people who needed it. Instead we actually killed people by sending the infection into nursing homes and they are still fudging the numbers in NY about that.

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Re: 11,458 new cases in Florida since yesterday


@reiki604 wrote:

@pigletsmom wrote:

For anyone praising NY on their handling of this mess you should now that this thing is in no way over in this state. While we have press conferences acting like something great has been accomplished, the people behind the scenes doing the work 12+ hours a day are already seeing numbers they don't like. And they assume we'll be in an upswing in August. 

 

The one thing they think will help for now is that less people could be on public transit because of nice weather. They're hoping that this way we actually flatten the curve as opposed to before but they for sure aren't banking on that.The thinking is that we could go up in August and then stay at those levels for a while and then spike way up in the fall.

 

Keep yourselves safe people!


Not quite sure what you're trying to say. At the height of the NY infections you complained about NY's reaction and how it wasn't that bad and we didn't need all those restrictions. Now that we have flattened the curve due to those restrictions, you are complaining that things are opening up. Will cases go up due to the loosening of restrictions. Probably because there is no cure or vaccine. It is trial and error to see how far we can open up safely. Nothing is guaranteed.

 

It just seems you want to criticize NY's response no matter what it does. IMHO

 


I agree. They managed it as best they could considering the infection rate and deaths. They at least took it seriously unlike other states. This virus is new, and it typically takes years of research and data to understand these things. I think they did a great job given the situation they were in. I am curious what the critics would have done differently.

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@suzyQ3 wrote:

@KKJ wrote:

@germanshepherdlove yes, so sad about Nick Cordero. I've followed his wife Amanda's updates about his condition. Am so impressed with how strong she's been throughout all this. She said if and when Nick is strong enough, he will need a double lung transplant since his lungs are so damaged.


@KKJ, I read about that likely procedure as well. I think it's amazing that he has survived. Perhaps his age is a factor.


I think I read that he passed away yesterday. :-(

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Re: 11,458 new cases in Florida since yesterday


@JJsMom wrote:

@reiki604 wrote:

@pigletsmom wrote:

For anyone praising NY on their handling of this mess you should now that this thing is in no way over in this state. While we have press conferences acting like something great has been accomplished, the people behind the scenes doing the work 12+ hours a day are already seeing numbers they don't like. And they assume we'll be in an upswing in August. 

 

The one thing they think will help for now is that less people could be on public transit because of nice weather. They're hoping that this way we actually flatten the curve as opposed to before but they for sure aren't banking on that.The thinking is that we could go up in August and then stay at those levels for a while and then spike way up in the fall.

 

Keep yourselves safe people!


Not quite sure what you're trying to say. At the height of the NY infections you complained about NY's reaction and how it wasn't that bad and we didn't need all those restrictions. Now that we have flattened the curve due to those restrictions, you are complaining that things are opening up. Will cases go up due to the loosening of restrictions. Probably because there is no cure or vaccine. It is trial and error to see how far we can open up safely. Nothing is guaranteed.

 

It just seems you want to criticize NY's response no matter what it does. IMHO

 


I agree. They managed it as best they could considering the infection rate and deaths. They at least took it seriously unlike other states. This virus is new, and it typically takes years of research and data to understand these things. I think they did a great job given the situation they were in. I am curious what the critics would have done differently.


Sadly there are those who refuse to understand that it was a rapidly changing situation that no one had faced before and need to blame an individual rather than that situation. Too many blame experts for not magically knowing everythig there is to know about something that had never been seen before. They are only concerne4d with their immediate area and don't care that others are suffering more and deeper than they are.


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Re: 11,458 new cases in Florida since yesterday


@reiki604 wrote:

@JJsMom wrote:

@reiki604 wrote:

@pigletsmom wrote:

For anyone praising NY on their handling of this mess you should now that this thing is in no way over in this state. While we have press conferences acting like something great has been accomplished, the people behind the scenes doing the work 12+ hours a day are already seeing numbers they don't like. And they assume we'll be in an upswing in August. 

 

The one thing they think will help for now is that less people could be on public transit because of nice weather. They're hoping that this way we actually flatten the curve as opposed to before but they for sure aren't banking on that.The thinking is that we could go up in August and then stay at those levels for a while and then spike way up in the fall.

 

Keep yourselves safe people!


Not quite sure what you're trying to say. At the height of the NY infections you complained about NY's reaction and how it wasn't that bad and we didn't need all those restrictions. Now that we have flattened the curve due to those restrictions, you are complaining that things are opening up. Will cases go up due to the loosening of restrictions. Probably because there is no cure or vaccine. It is trial and error to see how far we can open up safely. Nothing is guaranteed.

 

It just seems you want to criticize NY's response no matter what it does. IMHO

 


I agree. They managed it as best they could considering the infection rate and deaths. They at least took it seriously unlike other states. This virus is new, and it typically takes years of research and data to understand these things. I think they did a great job given the situation they were in. I am curious what the critics would have done differently.


Sadly there are those who refuse to understand that it was a rapidly changing situation that no one had faced before and need to blame an individual rather than that situation. Too many blame experts for not magically knowing everythig there is to know about something that had never been seen before. They are only concerne4d with their immediate area and don't care that others are suffering more and deeper than they are.


They cherry pick experts. If one doesn't agree with what they want to believe, they say they don't trust any of them. But the very next day they'll quote some obscure podiatrist from Timbuktu who says the power of pyramids and the moon will destroy Covid so don't wear a mask. It is extremely confusing to follow.

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Re: 11,458 new cases in Florida since yesterday


@kaydee50 wrote:

Isn't that at least partly because more people are being tested???  Front page of NY Times notes that the number of cases has increased 89% but the number of deaths from the virus has gone down 19%.  


Deaths lag behind a positive diagnosis.  We wouldn't see an increase in deaths until almost August.