On 3/16/2014 JeanLouiseFinch said: On 3/16/2014 tigriss said: On 3/16/2014 JeanLouiseFinch said: On 3/16/2014 tigriss said: If Chaz knows this substance is toxic to cats or other animals, why would he include it in his pet shampoo? Why wouldn't he create a shampoo that is perfect for all animals? This just seems like bad planning? People keep more than just dogs that need bathing, ferrets, hamsters, gerbils, cats, mice, rats, etc.....If he meant it to be for dogs, then put dogs on the label and not pets.
It's not a shampoo, it's a cleansing conditioner for pets. He's not being irresponsible about his product. There are many pet shampoos in the pet stores that have tea tree oil in them. Owners buy them and use them everyday on their animals. But again, I say, it's not necessary to physically bathe a cat because they take care of cleaning themselves just fine. Currently, WEN Pets is intended for "the four-legged members of the family", according to the text on Chaz' website, which would include all you've listed, and probably more including horses. The amount of tea tree oil in WEN Pets Cleansing Conditioner is low, but for those who still use the people cleansing conditioner on their pets, Chaz recommends they refrain from using the Tea Tree formula on their cats.
From Chaz' website:
WEN Pets™ brings the high performance, quality and amazing results you expect from a WEN® product to your pets. This non-lathering, rich and creamy formula leaves your pets with the rich, warm scent of maple from a plant Chaz encountered on his daily hikes with Hunter, Spencer and Ella. WEN Pets™ Cleansing Conditioner is pH balanced for pets and packed with essential oils, extracts, amino acids, vitamins, nutrients, and peptides. It eliminates the use of harsh detergents and chemicals, leaving your pet's coat silky, shiny and beautiful. Why use stripping detergents and other damaging ingredients on your furry friends when you won't use them on the rest of your family? Treat the four-legged members of your household with the love they deserve by giving them a smooth, shiny, polished and hydrated coat with WEN Pets™ Cleansing Conditioner.
Prior to use, please check with your veterinarian as some dogs may be sensitive to certain ingredients. If you use WEN on your cat, please avoid Tea Tree as the essential oil is toxic to cats.
You are SO RIGHT! It isn't a shampoo, but it is meant for cleaning your pets, thus it should either be labeled for the specific animals to be used on or be formulated to be used as it is advertised, on pets, thus all critters. His marketing is the problem, not the product. It is all about the marketing that won't be corrected until someone buys it and uses it on a cat or other animal that it should be used on, and the animal dies. As the page states
Who is it for: The universal formula is designed to be used on all breeds of dogs, cats, and even horses.
So why does he feel the need to state that you shouldn't use on cats, when his labeling does state to use it on cats. His print marketing and item labeling needs to adjusted to reflect the truth and dangers of the product.
I do find it a bit cult like that people are so very defensive over a silly product. Wrong is wrong and right is right. He even states that his advertising is wrong, so why so defensive. It is just proof of poor research in the creation of this one product that needs to be corrected before someone's beloved pet dies or is sickened. I'm sure it isn't him because the "head man" has teams working for him to take care of these things, but one of his research/development team and subsequent vetting staff that need to make the correction.
Don't take life so personally, it causes stress, and stress causes so many problems!
I don't have anything to defend, but I find it frustrating how non-WEN users try to find anything and everything they can and twist things solely for the purpose of putting Chaz Dean and his products in a bad light. Hey, if someone doesn't want to use it, that's fine, but they don't have to go out of their way to call names and make assumptions. I can see where you might be confused on his two statements. I probably should have clarified better.
This statement is in regard to WEN Pets:
WEN Pets™ brings the high performance, quality and amazing results you expect from a WEN® product to your pets. This non-lathering, rich and creamy formula leaves your pets with the rich, warm scent of maple from a plant Chaz encountered on his daily hikes with Hunter, Spencer and Ella. WEN Pets™ Cleansing Conditioner is pH balanced for pets and packed with essential oils, extracts, amino acids, vitamins, nutrients, and peptides. It eliminates the use of harsh detergents and chemicals, leaving your pet's coat silky, shiny and beautiful. Why use stripping detergents and other damaging ingredients on your furry friends when you won't use them on the rest of your family? Treat the four-legged members of your household with the love they deserve by giving them a smooth, shiny, polished and hydrated coat with WEN Pets™ Cleansing Conditioner.
This statement refers to those users who are still using the regular WEN for people on their pets:
Who is it for: The universal formula is designed to be used on all breeds of dogs, cats, and even horses.
Why don't you bother to pull up the WEN PETS page? Because it shows the truth that he advertises it for use on all pets without regard to the finer issues at point. I AM a WEN user but see better options on the market that are as good as if not better for far less. Try reading the below if you dare. The below comes from said marketing page http://www.qvc.com/WEN-by-Chaz-Dean-Pets-Cleansing-Conditioner,-64-oz.-Beauty.product.A233839.html?s... .
I take a great issue with someone that purports for a product to be a one size fits all that has dire consequences for those it is used on. His team has serious disregard for the value of pets, ALL PETS, bring to people by advertising it this way. Look forward to the further when he MUST market it to specific pets due to the TRUTH IN ADVERTISING law.
ONCE AGAIN IT ISN'T THE PRODUCTS THAT ARE THE PROBLEM, BUT THE MARKETING/ADVERTISING. GET OVER YOURSELF AND SEE CLEARLY, WAIT..., YOU HAVE BEEN BRAINWASHED TO BELIEVING THIS IS THE ONLY HOLY GRAIL OF HAIR PRODUCTS AND WILL DEFEND IT AS IT WAS YOUR LIFE. OH PLEASE......FIND SOMETHING FAR MORE IMPORTANT WITH YOUR LIFE TO PLACE ALL THAT ENERGY, LIKE DOING THE LAUNDRY!
What is it: WEN Pets Cleansing Conditioner brings the high performance, quality, and amazing results you'd expect from a WEN product to your pets. This non-lathering, creamy formula leaves your pets with the rich, warm scent of maple from a plant Chaz encountered on his daily hikes with Hunter, Spencer, and Ella.
Who is it for: The universal formula is designed to be used on all breeds of dogs, cats, and even horses.
Why is it different: WEN Pets is packed with essential oils, extracts, amino acids, vitamins, nutrients, and peptides. It eliminates the use of harsh detergents and chemicals, leaving your pet's coat silky, shiny, and beautiful. Treat the four-legged members of your household with the love they deserve by giving them a smooth, shiny, polished, and hydrated coat.
How do I use it: WEN Pets is a concentrated formula, so you'll use the provided mixing bottle to dilute the product and create a rich foam to cleanse your pet with. Fill the empty bottle to the appropriate line, then fill to the appropriate line with water.
For small pets (up to 25 lbs), fill the mixing bottle to the 2-oz mark with WEN Pets, then add 3 oz of water to the bottle, and shake thoroughly to mix.
For medium-sized pets (25-50 lbs), fill the mixing bottle to the 4-oz mark with WEN Pets, then add 6 oz of water, and shake thoroughly to mix.
For large pets (50-100 lbs), fill the mixing bottle to the 6-oz mark with WEN Pets, then fill with water close to top of the bottle, leaving just enough room so you can shake thoroughly to mix.
Rinse your pet's coat thoroughly and completely until soaking wet. Apply WEN Pets to your pet's coat until it is thoroughly saturated. Add a splash of water and vigorously massage. Leave on for three to five minutes, then rinse thoroughly and completely for several minutes until the product is completely rinsed out.
From WEN by Chaz Dean.
Includes:
- 64-fl oz WEN Pets Cleansing Conditioner
- Empty mixing bottle
- Pump
UNLESS SOMEONE WATCHES THE PRESENTATION, THEY WILL NOT KNOW THE TRUTH OF THE ISSUE WITH CATS AND BELIEVE THAT THE PRODUCT IS SAFE ON ALL PETS, WHICH IT IS NOT. TOXINS BUILD UP IN THE LIVER AND CAUSE LIVER FAILURE OVER TIME WITH THE USE OF THE PRODUCT.
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I guess my feeling on this topic is check with you vetranarian and see what they think is best for your prescious kitty. 
