Beauty

[shoekitty]

On 4/9/2015 winamac1 said:

On 4/9/2015 suzyQ3 said:

On 4/8/2015 KateChopin said:

What a humorless nation we have become...

Yes, It's so strange to hear such scorn for parody or spoofs that have always been a popular comedy genre. Sometimes they can be as tough as a Shriner's Roast. Heck, I used to watch Don Rickles on the Tonight Show home in on everyone's faults. It was his whole schtick.

This is nothing new, no groundbreaking going on. And to call this a form of bullying? Wow, that really show how far we've gone in losing the real meaning and danger of that word. It's in the dictionary, so anyone can refresh themselves as to the actual definition.

The man was unstable. Anything might have been the last straw for him; more likely, it was a myriad of factors that just led him to feel that his own pain was too unbearable. It is very sad, but it is also, unfortunately, not uncommon.

I think it was MOST definitely a form of bullying.

Winnie

I usually agree with your comments. This one, not so much. The man was seriously ill. The very act he committed, and how he did it shows desperation. There was a lot more going on than a skit. There has been mega bullying going on in the media with celebrities the last few years. it is not a pleasant experience, and has to hurt. Think of Adelle, now Kelly Clarkson, Mariah, Liz Taylor, Michael Jackson, and even Monica Lewinsky, the media was ruthless and cruel. There wasn't a late night show, or comedy skit that didn't make fun of these people. I don't agree with it, just as I don't all the so called bullying focused on a few of the Hosts and vendors here on QVC. You would think they committed mass murder the way they are raked over the coals for a bad hair day!

I think Dr Brandt had a lot going on. His manager said the skit was not the cause. I believe that. I also think Dr Brandt wouldn't want people to think he so weak, a skit drove him to end his life. But I am not him

JMHO

[addtothis]

I absolutely agree shoekitty. Please let him go in peace. Dr. Brandt, thank you for what you gave to us and humanity.

[shoekitty]

On 4/9/2015 Crisso said:

On 4/9/2015 Celticrose said:

On 4/9/2015 winamac1 said:

Oh puhhhleeze. Joan Rivers was a COMIC as was Don R. They were used to dishing it out and receiving it!

Dr. Brandt was an innocent bystander and not in the business of humor or humorless entertainment.

There is NO parallel.

EXACTLY!

As I wrote, above, the point was What if Joan had made remarks like this about him or other celebrities with depression? I am sure she has - she spoofed Robin Williams a great deal, for example. Whether she could take what she dished out was not the point I am sure Tina and Martin have hard shells too, so why target them and not the beloved Joan (and don't get me wrong, I like Joan).

As Joy Behar, a good friend of the doctor, said "satire does not cause suicide".

This is so true.

[Melania]

On 4/9/2015 Crisso said:

On 4/9/2015 winamac1 said:

Oh puhhhleeze. Joan Rivers was a COMIC as was Don R. They were used to dishing it out and receiving it!

Dr. Brandt was an innocent bystander and not in the business of humor or humorless entertainment.

There is NO parallel.

I think you may have missed the point. My point was what if Joan had made ""comedic"" jokes and nasty remarks about him or any other celebrity that may have been suffering from depression?

Puhhhleeze read carefully...

[MarLoCat]

http://variety.com/2015/tv/news/eddie-murphy-snl-bill-cosby-celebrity-jeopardy-norm-macdonald-120143...

Eddie Murphy, however, opted against the laughs.

According to Macdonald, he didn’t want to further shame Cosby–public enemy No. 1 on the Internet–who already faces a litany of sexual assault allegations for drugging and raping dozens of women.

“He knew the laughs would bring the house down,” Macdonald said of his decision. “(But) Eddie decides the laughs are not worth it. He will not kick a man when he is down.”

[K9buddy]

On 4/9/2015 Celticrose said:

On 4/9/2015 suzyQ3 said:

On 4/9/2015 Celticrose said:

On 4/9/2015 Crisso said:

Maybe posters will think twice about ripping apart hosts and vendors here? Same concept, but much worse IMO.

If I cannot watch a certain host, because of their mannerisms, and disingenuous behavior. I am not going to buy from that host. If a company is using selling tactics that I believe are unfair, are exploiting the old, feeble, and those who are home-bound, sick, dying or are otherwise vulnerable, I do not buy from that company. I view that as my opinion, which I have every right to, and company feedback. Now I have bought quite a bit lately; which I regret. I should have been smarter. I just returned five huge bags. $50.00 in shipping. With the exception of a few cosmetics and skin care on auto-delivery, I will be seriously curtailing my purchases here from now on.

As I understand it, these forums are printed off and given to the hosts. They read them at the very least. I think that's a good thing. To conflate that with a skit that portrayed a vulnerable old man as the literal punch line (at one point in the skit Martin Short is punched in the face, and the skin stays dented in) is another matter. As I said above, Dr. Brandt's publicist said he was "devastated". I won't be commenting on host behavior any more---I will be writing directly to the Corporate Office. Problem solved.

I've heard people say that they won't buy from a particular host. I never did understand that logic. But then I mostly shop online at different stores, so the salesperson is a non-entity to me.

You "understand" that these forums are printed off and given to the hosts??? May I ask your source?

I do think it's admirable that you won't bash hosts anymore. I'm sure Corporate will enjoy your calls.

The thought that he might have been devastated by the spoof speaks to his issues more than it does anything else. As others have pointed, celebs of all stripes are often the subject of parody. I'm sure some loved it and some didn't. It doesn't CAUSE an otherwise mentally stable person to commit suicide.

Could it be the last straw? Maybe. But that camel must have been crumbling already.

Why certainly Suze. I read HERE, in this great bastion of knowledge, on a different thread, at least a month ago???? (I can't remember - I'm not here that often - I have a life), that the forum notes are given to the hosts. I can't verify that as truth, and really, I don't care. QVC is barely on my radar. I read the forums for giggles. I very seldom watch; instead, I order online when I am specifically looking for something. Of course Corporate will enjoy my calls. Who wouldn't?

As far as Tina Fey, and Dr. Brandt, we'll have to agree to disagree. I've said all I needed to say, and now you're boring me. Good day.

Celticrose....I couldn't agree more!

[K9buddy]

On 4/9/2015 winamac1 said:

On 4/9/2015 suzyQ3 said:

On 4/8/2015 KateChopin said:

What a humorless nation we have become...

Yes, It's so strange to hear such scorn for parody or spoofs that have always been a popular comedy genre. Sometimes they can be as tough as a Shriner's Roast. Heck, I used to watch Don Rickles on the Tonight Show home in on everyone's faults. It was his whole schtick.

This is nothing new, no groundbreaking going on. And to call this a form of bullying? Wow, that really show how far we've gone in losing the real meaning and danger of that word. It's in the dictionary, so anyone can refresh themselves as to the actual definition.

The man was unstable. Anything might have been the last straw for him; more likely, it was a myriad of factors that just led him to feel that his own pain was too unbearable. It is very sad, but it is also, unfortunately, not uncommon.

I think it was MOST definitely a form of bullying.

Agree winamac1........it was nothing short of bullying to continue portraying him like that on the show!

[HappyDaze]

On 4/9/2015 shoekitty said:

On 4/9/2015 winamac1 said:

On 4/9/2015 suzyQ3 said:

On 4/8/2015 KateChopin said:

What a humorless nation we have become...

Yes, It's so strange to hear such scorn for parody or spoofs that have always been a popular comedy genre. Sometimes they can be as tough as a Shriner's Roast. Heck, I used to watch Don Rickles on the Tonight Show home in on everyone's faults. It was his whole schtick.

This is nothing new, no groundbreaking going on. And to call this a form of bullying? Wow, that really show how far we've gone in losing the real meaning and danger of that word. It's in the dictionary, so anyone can refresh themselves as to the actual definition.

The man was unstable. Anything might have been the last straw for him; more likely, it was a myriad of factors that just led him to feel that his own pain was too unbearable. It is very sad, but it is also, unfortunately, not uncommon.

I think it was MOST definitely a form of bullying.

Winnie

I usually agree with your comments. This one, not so much. The man was seriously ill. The very act he committed, and how he did it shows desperation. There was a lot more going on than a skit. There has been mega bullying going on in the media with celebrities the last few years. it is not a pleasant experience, and has to hurt. Think of Adelle, now Kelly Clarkson, Mariah, Liz Taylor, Michael Jackson, and even Monica Lewinsky, the media was ruthless and cruel. There wasn't a late night show, or comedy skit that didn't make fun of these people. I don't agree with it, just as I don't all the so called bullying focused on a few of the Hosts and vendors here on QVC. You would think they committed mass murder the way they are raked over the coals for a bad hair day!

I think Dr Brandt had a lot going on. His manager said the skit was not the cause. I believe that. I also think Dr Brandt wouldn't want people to think he so weak, a skit drove him to end his life. But I am not him

JMHO

you make some good points, shoekitty.

[suzyQ3]

On 4/9/2015 Celticrose said:

On 4/9/2015 suzyQ3 said:

On 4/9/2015 Celticrose said:

On 4/9/2015 Crisso said:

Maybe posters will think twice about ripping apart hosts and vendors here? Same concept, but much worse IMO.

If I cannot watch a certain host, because of their mannerisms, and disingenuous behavior. I am not going to buy from that host. If a company is using selling tactics that I believe are unfair, are exploiting the old, feeble, and those who are home-bound, sick, dying or are otherwise vulnerable, I do not buy from that company. I view that as my opinion, which I have every right to, and company feedback. Now I have bought quite a bit lately; which I regret. I should have been smarter. I just returned five huge bags. $50.00 in shipping. With the exception of a few cosmetics and skin care on auto-delivery, I will be seriously curtailing my purchases here from now on.

As I understand it, these forums are printed off and given to the hosts. They read them at the very least. I think that's a good thing. To conflate that with a skit that portrayed a vulnerable old man as the literal punch line (at one point in the skit Martin Short is punched in the face, and the skin stays dented in) is another matter. As I said above, Dr. Brandt's publicist said he was "devastated". I won't be commenting on host behavior any more---I will be writing directly to the Corporate Office. Problem solved.

I've heard people say that they won't buy from a particular host. I never did understand that logic. But then I mostly shop online at different stores, so the salesperson is a non-entity to me.

You "understand" that these forums are printed off and given to the hosts??? May I ask your source?

I do think it's admirable that you won't bash hosts anymore. I'm sure Corporate will enjoy your calls.

The thought that he might have been devastated by the spoof speaks to his issues more than it does anything else. As others have pointed, celebs of all stripes are often the subject of parody. I'm sure some loved it and some didn't. It doesn't CAUSE an otherwise mentally stable person to commit suicide.

Could it be the last straw? Maybe. But that camel must have been crumbling already.

Why certainly Suze. I read HERE, in this great bastion of knowledge, on a different thread, at least a month ago???? (I can't remember - I'm not here that often - I have a life), that the forum notes are given to the hosts. I can't verify that as truth, and really, I don't care. QVC is barely on my radar. I read the forums for giggles. I very seldom watch; instead, I order online when I am specifically looking for something. Of course Corporate will enjoy my calls. Who wouldn't?

As far as Tina Fey, and Dr. Brandt, we'll have to agree to disagree. I've said all I needed to say, and now you're boring me. Good day.

Thank you for admitting that. I appreciate it. I couldn't imagine anyone knowing that for a fact.

[winamac1]

On 4/9/2015 K9buddy said:

On 4/9/2015 winamac1 said:

On 4/9/2015 suzyQ3 said:

On 4/8/2015 KateChopin said:

What a humorless nation we have become...

Yes, It's so strange to hear such scorn for parody or spoofs that have always been a popular comedy genre. Sometimes they can be as tough as a Shriner's Roast. Heck, I used to watch Don Rickles on the Tonight Show home in on everyone's faults. It was his whole schtick.

This is nothing new, no groundbreaking going on. And to call this a form of bullying? Wow, that really show how far we've gone in losing the real meaning and danger of that word. It's in the dictionary, so anyone can refresh themselves as to the actual definition.

The man was unstable. Anything might have been the last straw for him; more likely, it was a myriad of factors that just led him to feel that his own pain was too unbearable. It is very sad, but it is also, unfortunately, not uncommon.

I think it was MOST definitely a form of bullying.

Agree winamac1........it was nothing short of bullying to continue portraying him like that on the show!

I T A. It was shameful.