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Re: Chaz said protein can break hair

So then would you say the FIG is the most "moisture" of any, seasonals or core or 613..? I guess I didn't think about the seasonal's having more protein than the core's... thanks

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On 1/19/2015 quadmimi said:

So then would you say the FIG is the most "moisture" of any, seasonals or core or 613..? I guess I didn't think about the seasonal's having more protein than the core's... thanks


Yes. Fig is the most moisturizing Smiley Happy I have head/read that Tea Tree and Summer Honey Peach (last year's summer seasonal scent) are also very moisturizing (still not quite as moisturizing as Fig though), but I have never used either. When the seasonals were first introduced, they were described as a cross between the core scents and 613. They have some of the treatment based ingredients (amino acids) that the 613 has, but not as much. After experiencing progressively worse results with the seasonals/POM/613, it took me a long time to figure out that my hair doesn't really like the soy formulas OR too much protein {#emotions_dlg.laugh} I have figured out how to incorporate 613 since then and have it benefit my hair. But I have to really watch not to overdo it. I can only use it a tiny bit at a time, mixed with Fig, and only on my first cleanse (using straight Fig for the second).

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I sure wish I knew what has happened with my hair and Wen. I have been a faithful user of Wen for quite a few years and have always been very happy with it, until recently. All of a sudden my hair has become very dry and brittle and I have not changed any of my haircare routine. I have very fine hair so use the Wen he recommends for that.

I am wondering if medication could be the problem as I am now on quite a few meds that I use to not be on. If so, I really don't know what to do as I need the meds.

Just curious if anyone else has had this issue if they are on new meds.

Thank you

Vicki

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On 1/19/2015 quadmimi said:

So then would you say the FIG is the most "moisture" of any, seasonals or core or 613..? I guess I didn't think about the seasonal's having more protein than the core's... thanks

I personally feel summer honey peach has more moisture than fig or at least the same but a different kind of "moisture"- honey (SHP) vs glycerin based.
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I found 613 very drying for me. I use it once in a blue moon after I color to use it up but I normally use Fig religiously. That is until I finally got the FTP seasonal and I love it. I think it is exactly what I need since my hair drinks up moisture. So far Fig and the Fall seasonal have been wonderful for my dry hair. I bought the TSV seasonals so I am excited to see if all of the seasonals are pretty much where my hair wants to be.

I have tried TT and while it's okay I find it's really only for me if I am having scalp issues plus I am not big on the scent. I also do the Fig remoist very sparingly as I find my hair doesn't really need it or it could be I'm lazy since you have to apply it to clean hair. I have a lot of thick curly hair so washing it is a big deal the very next day and time consuming. I also air dry exclusively and always have so I don't do a lot of damage to my hair at all.

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On 1/19/2015 HappyDaze said:
On 1/19/2015 quadmimi said:

So then would you say the FIG is the most "moisture" of any, seasonals or core or 613..? I guess I didn't think about the seasonal's having more protein than the core's... thanks

I personally feel summer honey peach has more moisture than fig or at least the same but a different kind of "moisture"- honey (SHP) vs glycerin based.


I wondered if you thought SHP had more moisture than Fig. I assumed not because I thought I remembered you saying Fig had too much moisture for you to use regularly, but it could be that SHP's moisture/protein balance is better for your hair than the straight moisture of Fig. Since my hair doesn't like soy, I'll never know!

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On 1/19/2015 Laura14 said:

I found 613 very drying for me. I use it once in a blue moon after I color to use it up but I normally use Fig religiously. That is until I finally got the FTP seasonal and I love it. I think it is exactly what I need since my hair drinks up moisture. So far Fig and the Fall seasonal have been wonderful for my dry hair. I bought the TSV seasonals so I am excited to see if all of the seasonals are pretty much where my hair wants to be.

I have tried TT and while it's okay I find it's really only for me if I am having scalp issues plus I am not big on the scent. I also do the Fig remoist very sparingly as I find my hair doesn't really need it or it could be I'm lazy since you have to apply it to clean hair. I have a lot of thick curly hair so washing it is a big deal the very next day and time consuming. I also air dry exclusively and always have so I don't do a lot of damage to my hair at all.

Boy do I hear you on this! I actually find that using the remoist doesn't add a ton of time for me though, if I wash and then leave it in overnight. My hair soaks it up and it hardly takes any time at all to rinse out the next morning. The time tradeoff then, though, is that my hair takes forever to dry, and instead of starting to diffuse it from partially/mostly dry (having washed it the night before and NOT rinsing in the morning), I start all over again with sopping wet hair. It takes about 20 mins to diffuse dry if I've let it dry overnight, vs. about 60 mins from fully wet, no matter how much water I squeeze/sop out of it in between. So you might not find it adds too much time to rinse out the RM either Smile


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On 1/19/2015 vickisok said:

I sure wish I knew what has happened with my hair and Wen. I have been a faithful user of Wen for quite a few years and have always been very happy with it, until recently. All of a sudden my hair has become very dry and brittle and I have not changed any of my haircare routine. I have very fine hair so use the Wen he recommends for that.

I am wondering if medication could be the problem as I am now on quite a few meds that I use to not be on. If so, I really don't know what to do as I need the meds.

Just curious if anyone else has had this issue if they are on new meds.

Thank you

Vicki

If you are on any NSAIDS, most notably Naproxen, then I would definitely guess it is your meds. Others can do it but Naproxen is really known for breaking hair.
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On the flip side of the protein coin, last summer I really leaned into the SHP without balancing it out with 613 and greatly Overmoisturized my hair. I couldn't keep a curl for anything. I had to hit the 613 hard until I felt it being dry (several months) and now I have a good routine of incorporating enough 613 so that I have balance. I definitely need 613 in my routine.
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On 1/19/2015 WenGirl42 said:
On 1/19/2015 Laura14 said:

I found 613 very drying for me. I use it once in a blue moon after I color to use it up but I normally use Fig religiously. That is until I finally got the FTP seasonal and I love it. I think it is exactly what I need since my hair drinks up moisture. So far Fig and the Fall seasonal have been wonderful for my dry hair. I bought the TSV seasonals so I am excited to see if all of the seasonals are pretty much where my hair wants to be.

I have tried TT and while it's okay I find it's really only for me if I am having scalp issues plus I am not big on the scent. I also do the Fig remoist very sparingly as I find my hair doesn't really need it or it could be I'm lazy since you have to apply it to clean hair. I have a lot of thick curly hair so washing it is a big deal the very next day and time consuming. I also air dry exclusively and always have so I don't do a lot of damage to my hair at all.

Boy do I hear you on this! I actually find that using the remoist doesn't add a ton of time for me though, if I wash and then leave it in overnight. My hair soaks it up and it hardly takes any time at all to rinse out the next morning. The time tradeoff then, though, is that my hair takes forever to dry, and instead of starting to diffuse it from partially/mostly dry (having washed it the night before and NOT rinsing in the morning), I start all over again with sopping wet hair. It takes about 20 mins to diffuse dry if I've let it dry overnight, vs. about 60 mins from fully wet, no matter how much water I squeeze/sop out of it in between. So you might not find it adds too much time to rinse out the RM either Smile


Lazy it is! My hair takes a few hours to dry because there's so much of it. I would have to do it on the weekends. I definitely need to get into a better routine.