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Teacher daughter had her 2nd shot yesterday.  At 4 a.m., she woke up with hot flashes, cold chills, and a general yucky feeling, took Aleve and went back to bed.   She has a slight headache now, along with a sore arm and injection site reaction, but is up and moving as usual.   

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@Venezia  Absolutely! I have lupus, RA, epilepsy, and diabetes. All of specialists and PCP agree the vaccines are necessary for maintaining my compromised immune system.

The vaccine is NOT made up of a live virus and is safe. The email I received from my group of Rheumatologists did say some people may experience side-effects for a day or two. (But many people complained of side-effects of the flu shots! Minor details IMHO.) 

I'm on the list and when an appointment is scheduled, there will be no hesitation on my part to get both shots!!

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I wish you the best, @BirkiLady, but please know that just because an inoculation does not contain live virus, does not mean that it is safe for everyone taking it.  

 

A young, 23-year-old Israeli man died from MIS (Multisystem Inflammatory Syndrome), as did a 36-year-old Memphis, TN orthopedic doctor named Barton Williams.  The injections were definitely implicated in their demise, as was a prior infection with SARS-CoV-2, whether or not they knew they had been previously infected.  Not all side effects are minor or self-limiting from these inoculations.

 

I just read about a 78-year-old woman at a mass vaccination site in Los Angeles County, California who died in the waiting area post inoculation, so she died within 15 minutes of her injection. She had a pre-existing heart condition, and authorities are not linking her death to the injection, which I find quite incredible considering how soon her death occurred post injection, and considering that some nurses experienced sudden high blood pressure and elevated heart rates post injection. Could that not also have happened to this woman with a cardiac condition? Severe adverse events and deaths don't happen to most people, but they can happen.  I pray that everyone here is safe and has no side effects whatsoever.

 

 

 

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My husband will get his 2nd Pfizer shot on Thursday.  He didn't have any issues with his first shot, so hoping for the best on the 2nd.

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@Jersey Born  When filling out the form, we were asked to list our PCP and answered health questions. There was another space for additional comments or concerns. I added my autoimmune conditions since not all of them were on their list of questions.

If HHS had any reservations, they have all of the information to contact my PCP or me with further questions before making an appointment (or asking additional questions at that time). I've read up and educated myself on the vaccines (believing that I'm my own best health care advocate with help from my specialists and PCP). 

As with any surgical procedure or medication, a vaccine is going to have a few deaths. It happens. But I'm not about to live in fear of such a tiny percentage when the vast majority is a huge success. 

That's not very positive thinking to spread fear about such a small minority of cases.     

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I appreciate your viewpoint, @BirkiLady, but please understand that I am hearing about serious problems that people are having, not minor problems.  I am hearing about miscarriages, too.  As long as people are aware that there are risks, then they can make informed medical decisions.  If everyone thinks that there are no risks, then they are not making an informed decision.  

 

I read today that there have been over 1,000 deaths reported to the CDC, but the VAERS (Vakksine Adverse Event Reporting System) does not list them all, but only just over half of them.

 

I do not share your optimism and faith in our health authorities, not when they are patent holders of some of the technologies used in the very products they are supposed to be ensuring are "safe and effective."  There should be no profit motive for these agencies.  None.  The OTT (Office of Technology Transfer) is a problem for this very reason, in my opinion. 

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@Jersey Born wrote:

I appreciate your viewpoint, @BirkiLady, but please understand that I am hearing about serious problems that people are having, not minor problems.  I am hearing about miscarriages, too.  As long as people are aware that there are risks, then they can make informed medical decisions.  If everyone thinks that there are no risks, then they are not making an informed decision.  

 

I read today that there have been over 1,000 deaths reported to the CDC, but the VAERS (Vakksine Adverse Event Reporting System) does not list them all, but only just over half of them.

 

I do not share your optimism and faith in our health authorities, not when they are patent holders of some of the technologies used in the very products they are supposed to be ensuring are "safe and effective."  There should be no profit motive for these agencies.  None.  The OTT (Office of Technology Transfer) is a problem for this very reason, in my opinion. 


@Jersey Born I feel the same way.  I'm very concerned about long term side effects....possibly an autoimmune illness.  I've lived with DH who has had a severe autoimmune  brain disease for almost 9 years now.  It's been very difficult.

 

The vaccine is not designed for keeping one from getting infected.  I's really designed from keeping one from getting very sick if they do get infected and they really don't know how long the effects will last...could be as short as 3-4 months.

 

To be honest I would rather take my chances with Covid.  Studies have shown that those with high vitamin D levels are less likely to have a severe outcome. 

 

In addition, quercetin or hydroxychloroquine (DH has been taking it for years and it's also sold over the counter in some countries to battle malaria) along with zinc also helps with treating covid with positive outcomes.

 

Those studies that have shown hydroxychloroquine to be problematic were shown to have given people fatal doses. 

 

We're all different.  I make sure to keep my immune system working well and I never eat cheap processed foods.  I try to keep carbs & sugar intake low too.  This is how I'm approaching things concerning this virus.

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@haddon9 - We have been reading similar things, I see.  I am so sorry for what your husband is going through with his illness, and for what you are experiencing in assisting him, too.  I agree with all you have stated regarding Vitamin D3, zinc, quercetin, and hydroxychloroquine. There were so many bad studies done on hydroxychloroqine that gave the drug way too late in the course of the illness, gave many times too high of a dose- essentially a fatal dose, and then there was the scandalous falsified data study (with data from Surgisphere), and the data could not be verified or produced by the study author resulting in the study's immediate retraction from The Lancet and from the New England Journal of Medicine, too. When given early, hydroxychloroquine does seem to work, and a recent NJ study proved that.

 

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/06/whos-blame-these-three-scientists-are-heart-surgisphere-covi...

 

https://bmcinfectdis.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12879-021-05773-w

 

 

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I also have an autoimmune disease and my hematologist will neither approve or disapprove of this vaccine.   He refers all patients to the health department.

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Several anti- vax people posting incorrect information on this thread. Don't rely on a random Facebook post. Ask your doctor if you have concerns about the covid vaccine. Robert Kennedy Jr. was recently removed from Instagram for posting false vaccination information.