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Re: Ray Rice Cut by Baltimore Ravens

On 9/8/2014 terrier3 said:
On 9/8/2014 MomOf4 said:

Actually I think he should be in jail. Any other person who wasn't a ""celebrity"" would be.

Aren't they having a criminal trial?

I just heard that his lawyer had access to this elevator tape from the start - it was part of the items that were going to be used in the criminal trial.

I hadn't heard that Terrier but I really hope you are right!!

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Re: Ray Rice Cut by Baltimore Ravens

On 9/8/2014 sidsmom said:

With public release of today's video, Roger Goodell's neck was slowly being lowered to the chopping block. He's saving his neck....I would like the League to hold Goodell responsible w/ this on some level. And yes, I'm sure Goodell knew about this video....it's not 'new' evidence.

Here is what was said about the video:

"We requested from law enforcement any and all information about the incident, including the video from inside the elevator,’’ NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said Monday morning. ‘‘That video was not made available to us and no one in our office has seen it until today.’’

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Re: Ray Rice Cut by Baltimore Ravens

On 9/8/2014 sidsmom said:

There's something nagging @ me about this. Yes, he assaulted this woman. But she didn't want to prosecute. AND why did this woman marry this guy AFTER the assault?

Woman do this exact same thing hundreds of times throughout this country every day. They go back to the abuser. I made him mad. He was really apolgetic. He said he would not do it again are some of the countless excuses that are made by woman that either fear for their life, or do not know how to stand up to this kind of abuse.

It's hard for us woman who would not tolerated this sort of behavior or have never experienced it to understand.

I have a very low opinion of humankind. I know that sounds harsh. Perhaps I watch way to many crime shows, but the first thing that I thought of was wow!! he is really going to give her a beat down now. I can gurantee you that he will blame her for this not his own actions.

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Re: Ray Rice Cut by Baltimore Ravens

Where is the outcry from the women's groups?

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Re: Ray Rice Cut by Baltimore Ravens

Yes good, but right after the new rule on suspension, the 49'er got to play football Sunday, because the excuse was he hasn't been convicted or charged yet. His girlfriend pregnant I think 10 weeks and he choked her and the bruises were there. This happen at a party in his house.

They needed him for the game Sunday, so no suspension, and the good old boys win, even if the girl's claim is legit. It's money people on this Sunday game. Today in the news, he is being out of the games and I think it said, he will be going to an Oregon team. Also, he did not preform well Sunday.

Women don't stand a chance against these players, because they are not the money makers, just a women and the rules were bent again.

In my 78 years, I've seen it again and again and again, in all walks of employment when the man is involved.

One poster is right, these abuse women go back. I manage to escape with my life in the 60's with three children ages 5, 7, 9. no help, no organizations for women anywhere, you did it with family help or got strong on your own.

Well in the 90's, I joined a group that helped battered woman with resumes, clothes, interviews, etc. Ninety percent went back, and I quit. If they are so low in esteem or like the treatment after they have gotten out and got help, then they made their bed and let the chips fall.

There was no reason except stupidity to go back, everyone was working for them and it made me angry because the women in my day had to put themselves up bythe boot straps to leave. One of my friends couldn't handle it and committed suicide. Sorry for the soap box, but no reason today to take that kind of treatment, maybe his money meant more to her, so she marries him.

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Re: Ray Rice Cut by Baltimore Ravens

There was outcry from women's organizations, who contacted both the commissioner's office and the Ravens organization asking that the punishment be increased, if not by the NFL, then at least by the Ravens. Both did nothing.

There is an excellent column in today's Baltimore Sun with the writer thanking TMZ for doing what no sports network would do - expose the seriousness of Rice's actions. If you can google it, read it. It's excellent.

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Re: Ray Rice Cut by Baltimore Ravens

On 9/8/2014 howwhatwhen said:
On 9/8/2014 sidsmom said:

With public release of today's video, Roger Goodell's neck was slowly being lowered to the chopping block. He's saving his neck....I would like the League to hold Goodell responsible w/ this on some level. And yes, I'm sure Goodell knew about this video....it's not 'new' evidence.

Here is what was said about the video:

"We requested from law enforcement any and all information about the incident, including the video from inside the elevator,’’ NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said Monday morning. ‘‘That video was not made available to us and no one in our office has seen it until today.’’

I read that the only evidence until today was a video of Ray Rice dragging his unconscious wife from the elevator. TMZ received and made public today the actual video from inside the elevator showing Ray Rice beating his wife to a pulp. The NFL has suspended Rice indefinitely.

Please don't chastise Rice's wife for not leaving him or pressing charges. She is the victim, doing what an unfortunate number of victims do.

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Re: Ray Rice Cut by Baltimore Ravens

On 9/8/2014 MomOf4 said:
On 9/8/2014 terrier3 said:
On 9/8/2014 MomOf4 said:

Actually I think he should be in jail. Any other person who wasn't a ""celebrity"" would be.

Aren't they having a criminal trial?

I just heard that his lawyer had access to this elevator tape from the start - it was part of the items that were going to be used in the criminal trial.

I hadn't heard that Terrier but I really hope you are right!!

Update - It was evidence...but they gave him a plea deal instead...he is taking anger management classes!!!!!

He punched her the way one prizefighter brings down another.

I wonder what they were fighting about?

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Re: Ray Rice Cut by Baltimore Ravens

On 9/8/2014 MomOf4 said:

Actually I think he should be in jail. Any other person who wasn't a "celebrity" would be.

Exactly. Locked away for many years. And the woman who married him after he beat her unconscious should be forced to undergo intensive therapy to help her learn exactly why she would choose to marry such a violent criminal. (And, hopefully also given legal assistance to divorce him immediately, while she is still alive and able to do so.) I sincerely hope they have no children.

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Re: Ray Rice Cut by Baltimore Ravens

On 9/8/2014 MomOf4 said:
On 9/8/2014 terrier3 said:
On 9/8/2014 MomOf4 said:

Actually I think he should be in jail. Any other person who wasn't a "celebrity" would be.

Aren't they having a criminal trial?

I just heard that his lawyer had access to this elevator tape from the start - it was part of the items that were going to be used in the criminal trial.

I hadn't heard that Terrier but I really hope you are right!!

May 1, 2014

Rice rejected a plea offer that would have spared the running back jail time in exchange for completing probation and undergoing anger management. Instead, he pleaded not guilty and applied for a program for first-time offenders that could clear him of charges in as few as six months. The program would require Rice to stay out of trouble and attend regular counseling.

Rice was accepted into the program earlier this week, allowing him to avoid trial.