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Part 2: Why were we taught the wrong thing about oils?

This article explains “The Lipid Hypothesis” which started in the 50’s.

 

The Lipid Hypothesis appears to be wrong.

 

link to article:

https://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/know-your-fats/the-skinny-on-fats/

 

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Yes, this hypothesis  was taught to an entire generation (mine).

 

The article seems to cite many examples of other societies and research studies that show how and why a blanket statement that oils are bad for you is wrong.

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@LTT1 @I started to read that but it is long so I will spend tome on that later today.Thanks for posting.We eat a very traditional old style diet at our house.Meat(small amount) lots of vegetables including potatoes.We also eat bread.My eating plan is for low cholesterol but we do include olive oil,avocado oil and even some butter.Both My dh and I are thin and have never needed to diet.We rarely eat in restaurants and neither did people in past generations.I just wonder if that isn’t part of the reason so many people struggle with their weight.

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Re: Part 2: Why were we taught the wrong thing about oils?

An excerpt:

 

“The relative good health of the Japanese, who have the longest life span of any nation in the world, is generally attributed to a lowfat diet. Although the Japanese eat few dairy fats, the notion that their diet is low in fat is a myth; rather, it contains moderate amounts of animal fats from eggs, pork, chicken, beef, seafood and organ meats. With their fondness for shellfish and fish broth, eaten on a daily basis, the Japanese probably consume more cholesterol than most Americans. What they do not consume is a lot of vegetable oil, white flour or processed food (although they do eat white rice.) The life span of the Japanese has increased since World War II with an increase in animal fat and protein in the diet.23 Those who point to Japanese statistics to promote the lowfat diet fail to mention that the Swiss live almost as long on one of the fattiest diets in the world. Tied for third in the longevity stakes are Austria and Greece—both with high-fat diets.2”

 

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Re: Part 2: Why were we taught the wrong thing about oils?

I do not know why,but in the Woody Allen film,"Sleeper" when he wakes up in the future they (people waking him up) quick,give him cigarettes and coffee and talk about how they wrong to think that was wrong. 

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Re: Part 2: Why were we taught the wrong thing about oils?

The Mediterranean Diet is at the top of the list every year as one of the best ways to eat and its main ingredients are olive oil and fish.  I am a big fan of food existing to put olive oil in my mouth.

 

Eating the right kinds of fat has all kinds of recent neurological research bringing to light the importance of healthy fats for a healthy brain which makes common sense since your brain is mostly fat.   

 

They are also rethinking salt.  Japan is one of the highest consuming cultures of salt yet as you quoted one of the healthiest too.  We're all still learning.

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@Laura14   Hey girl, it's nice to hear from you.  I don't know if it's due to my sporadic appearances here, or if you haven't been around much, but I've missed you!

 

Regarding the original post, I did read most of the lengthy article, and the gist is that we should avoid processed foods and concentrate on whole foods.  I totally agree with that idea........just wish I was more of a saint! 

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Re: Part 2: Why were we taught the wrong thing about oils?

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@LTT1 wrote:

An excerpt:

 

“The relative good health of the Japanese, who have the longest life span of any nation in the world, is generally attributed to a lowfat diet. Although the Japanese eat few dairy fats, the notion that their diet is low in fat is a myth; rather, it contains moderate amounts of animal fats from eggs, pork, chicken, beef, seafood and organ meats. With their fondness for shellfish and fish broth, eaten on a daily basis, the Japanese probably consume more cholesterol than most Americans. What they do not consume is a lot of vegetable oil, white flour or processed food (although they do eat white rice.) The life span of the Japanese has increased since World War II with an increase in animal fat and protein in the diet.23 Those who point to Japanese statistics to promote the lowfat diet fail to mention that the Swiss live almost as long on one of the fattiest diets in the world. Tied for third in the longevity stakes are Austria and Greece—both with high-fat diets.2”

 


 

 

 

My mother is Japanese and I am part. I was raised eating Japanese food and food which was cooked by traditional methods used in Japan. The Japanese eat a lot of stuff from the ocean. Cooking with oils is usually done with peanut oil and vegetables are never over-cooked, but are always somewhat partially cooked. Dairy was never a part of my diet and only until I became an adult did I start consuming it. The Japanese consume a lot of salt and MSG. They also consume a lot of canned goods as well as pickled and fermented foods. The rice they eat is white and it is always washed extremely well to remove a lot of the starch. Rice is eaten in moderation. Soy products are a large part of their diet as is fish, pork and chicken. Beef is usually limited and is considered whenever there is a desire for it on special occasions.

 

The Japanese do not eat corn or anything made from it like corn oil or corn meal. Corn over there is considered to be food for their pigs.

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@2blonde   I am not here much anymore (moved on to other places and things in my life) but it's always nice to talk to you.  Heart

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The Weston Price Foundation is notorious for spreading

mis-information. 

 

I’m sure Dr. Price is spinning in his grave knowing the low-carb

community is using his name to spread this mis-information. 

 

When you have articles titled like,

Soy Infant Formula: Birth Control Pills for Babies”,

that really says it all. Tap out.

 

As for oil being bad for you, yeah...it’s bad.

Really bad.

Oils are 9 calories per gram...

compared to carbohydrates & protein w/ 4 calories per gram.

 

All the inflammation to the endothelial system, like sugar,

enough to avoid but the simple ‘food math’ of calorie density alone

is smart enough to avoid....you can eat more than TWICE as much 

without the oil/fat...and who wouldn’t want that? 🌼💛

 

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@LTT1 wrote:

This article explains “The Lipid Hypothesis” which started in the 50’s.

 

The Lipid Hypothesis appears to be wrong.

 

link to article:

https://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/know-your-fats/the-skinny-on-fats/

 

Weston A Price Organization

Yes, this hypothesis  was taught to an entire generation (mine).

 

The article seems to cite many examples of other societies and research studies that show how and why a blanket statement that oils are bad for you is wrong.


There are many really good youtube videos on this also.  

 

Cholesterol code website by Dave Feldman is very eye opening!  He has conducted so many experiments on himself and his cholesterol levels and many other biomarkers of health.  Highly recommend his talks on youtube.

 

Ivor Cummins and Dr. Gerber is another one....he explains how it truly works and that fats are not the enemy.  Vegatable oils/corn oils/soybean oil are the oils to avoid.  Olive oil and yes saturated fat from red meat is not evil.  It's beneficial...along with fats from fish like salmon.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWJQKaNpvvI

 

Even Dr. Walter Willet from Havard National Institute of Health.... admits carbs are the problem NOT fats!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sKu_mukdiA

 

Cato Institute Nina Teicholz (Big Fat Surprise)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzQAHITIUhg