Wellness

[NoelSeven]

What I find shocking is that some people support articles on the subject they have not read or simply do not understand.

[Annabellethecat66]

Those of us who are called Senior Citizens (with capitals, thank you) or Baby Boomers, real Baby Boomers born right after the War, have had just about everything you could think of.

My brother and I even had Scarlet Fever. Obviously, we survived. None of it was easy.

I totally believe in giving children shots. Here's what my two daughter do that have their children vaccinated.

The oldest daughter has 5 children (4 are living). She has always divided up the shots that are to be given each WELL VISIT. The well visit occurs on each child's birthday. Her children range in age from 2 to 12. When she takes them for their birthday checkup she has the Drs give 1/2 of the required shots with that visit and then 1 month later they get the second set of shots required at that time. They have to pay extra money for the Drs visits because insurance won't pay for two well visits. It is worth the extra money that the children aren't hit with so many shots at once and their body can recooperate from being innundated with so many viruses. It poses no problems as far as the effectiveness of the shots (my girls and Drs have done the research and knows which to give when).

The middle daughter has 3 children. Their ages are 3 to 8 years old. She also divides up the shots. She does exactly like her older sister does when it comes to her children. My granddaughter by this daughter just had her 8 year old visit (her birthday is in December). She had her Mom send me a text message along with a picture of her all wrapped in a white sheet, smiling with a thumbs up.

It is only because of insurance that Drs and parents are forced to have their children PUMPED with all of these viruses at one visit. Think about that. There is no real reason why they have to have all of those shots (sometimes it is utterly STUPID giving a child so small so many shots at one time).

I realize many people cannot afford to make two visits to get the required shots for their child. If anything needs to happen it needs to happen at the insurance level.

Insurance companies have been allowed to run our entire lives. We go to the Drs. We are given EXACTLY 30 pills per visit for a presecription. Heaven forbid if these arthritic hands and fingers drops a pill a little larger than the head of a pin or nail! I can't tell you the lengths I've gone through trying to find that tiny pill because I only have the eXACT amount for one month!

Insurance companies are maintained by Dr's. I know. My late husband was a very profitable partner in the stock market. We made a lot of money in the stock market. He even had a satellite dish in our yard so he could 'bid' on stocks and we'd see it in REAL TIME.

My money is managed by a very large company. That's all they do. I have Drs to whom I talk to about their stocks (medicine and medical products) and my stocks. It is one of if not the biggest group of companies in the world (not just America)!

All of this drives the same medical issues we are debating here.

That said, we still need to get our children vaccinated and protected. We also need to divide up these shots to two visits. Oh! The Drs and the insurance companies won't be happy. They all loose money when you divide up the shots to two visits instead of one visit (per group of shots).

This might appease those who worry that the shots are causing Autism.

When I said a sad day, (see my post above); I meant that it will be sad that we have to come to one more thing that keeps this country from experiencing the wonderful people all over the world.

I love all people. I just want them to visit and go home if they aren't here legally. If they are here legally (American or whatever else they are); PLEASE get those shots.

It's your children who will suffer. Meantime my children and grandchildren will be protected.

I still have to sweat out the two grandchildren who are under 5. My daughter said those two have to wait until they are 5 to get the final MMR shot.

The irony of this is that people who protest and not get the shots due to the fear of Autism are usually the well-educated people. This is a case where ignorance knows no bounds.

[Andreatoo]

you may have the right not to vaccinate your children but you also have the right to homeschool them. Why on earth are they allowed to endanger other children? While the children they're in school with may be vaccinated and not susceptible what about their infant siblings at home that they could very easily carry it to? What are the rights of those children?! even Jenny McCarthy herself is now back peddling on her original stance but you can't unring that bell

[NoelSeven]

Ladies, it was NOT just an easy time when many of us got measles long ago.

Let's look at facts instead of faint memories of decades gone by.

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In 1912, measles became a nationally notifiable disease in the United States, requiring U.S. healthcare providers and laboratories to report all diagnosed cases. In the first decade of reporting, an average of 6,000 measles-related deaths were reported each year.

In the decade before 1963 when a vaccine became available, nearly all children got measles by the time they were 15 years of age. It is estimated 3 to 4 million people in the United States were infected each year. Also each year an estimated 400 to 500 people died, 48,000 were hospitalized, and 4,000 suffered encephalitis (swelling of the brain) from measles.

Reference & source:

http://www.cdc.gov/measles/about/history.html

THAT is why we vaccinate.

[dooBdoo]

On 1/25/2015 NoelSeven said:

What I find shocking is that some people support articles on the subject they have not read or simply do not understand.

I find it shocking, too, and perplexing, Noel. I wonder if part of it is due to the phenomenon of the change in our attention span these days -- sometimes people want to read a short synopsis and move on... but that means we're trusting the synopsis to be accurate.

The internet holds a wonderful wealth of information... and it also can be a wily, alluring temptress, convincing people they can be as knowledgeable as an accredited medical professional, that they somehow are now as qualified as a doctor or pharmacist, making diagnoses, suggesting specific treatments or preventative steps, and prescribing medication to anyone who will listen. That's wrong, and it's dangerous.

(O/T: Thanks for the good wishes, and I hope you're on the mend!)

[dooBdoo]

On 1/25/2015 Andreatoo said: you may have the right not to vaccinate your children but you also have the right to homeschool them. Why on earth are they allowed to endanger other children? While the children they're in school with may be vaccinated and not susceptible what about their infant siblings at home that they could very easily carry it to? What are the rights of those children?! even Jenny McCarthy herself is now back peddling on her original stance but you can't unring that bell

Yes, McCarthy is back peddling, and it's ironic (to say the least) that she's been making money promoting e-cigarettes (totally unregulated, potentially dangerous product). The disgraced doctor Wakefield has also been proven to have been not only wrong but also fraudulent. But the dreadful damage has been done. When a big lie is tossed out there and repeated again and again, it's hard to erase it from the minds of those who heard it.

[NoelSeven]

On 1/25/2015 NoelSeven said:

Ladies, it was NOT just an easy time when many of us got measles long ago.

Let's look at facts instead of faint memories of decades gone by.

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In 1912, measles became a nationally notifiable disease in the United States, requiring U.S. healthcare providers and laboratories to report all diagnosed cases. In the first decade of reporting, an average of 6,000 measles-related deaths were reported each year.

In the decade before 1963 when a vaccine became available, nearly all children got measles by the time they were 15 years of age. It is estimated 3 to 4 million people in the United States were infected each year. Also each year an estimated 400 to 500 people died, 48,000 were hospitalized, and 4,000 suffered encephalitis (swelling of the brain) from measles.

Reference & source:

http://www.cdc.gov/measles/about/history.html

THAT is why we vaccinate.

Bringing this forward, I don't want anyone to miss THE FACTS.

[AnotherView2]

FOX NEWS doctor, Marc Siegel, says Measles a million times more easily transmitted than Ebola and blames anti-vaxxers for current outbreak in Orange County, CA. Says anti-vaxxers should be forced to homeschool their kids:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-cl=84503534&v=YQsHlicSlVQ&x-yt-ts=1421914688

BTW, my son had to have emergency heart surgery at a children's hospital to save his life when he was only 5 weeks old back in 1994. Fortunately, most children were vaccinated back in 1994. Imagine if a 5 week old (or any child) had to enter a children's hospital today and be in the same hospital with a bunch of highly contagious unvaccinated kids...Scary to even consider.

This doctor wants unvaccinated kids segregated to homeschooling. So, anti-vaxxers may be also setting their kids up for socially enforced segregation in addition to unnecessary suffering.

The Supreme Court allows for medically necessary exceptions to vaccinations in all states but, states are not constitutionally required to allow non-medical exemptions (philosophical or religious) at all.

Mississippi and West Virginia are already Medical exemption only and I believe that this issue may solve itself soon enough and people will be required to vaccinate (except for medical reasons only) in order to protect the entire population.

[sidsmom]

NoelSeven: Curious...with the current outbreak, what is the age range? Is there an 'age-cap' where the vaccine is not worth the risk? Will we see a vaccine campaign like we did in years past?

[Jackielee]

JUst to repeat, there are some states that do not require your child being vaccinated to enter school. Here in California it is called the school vaccination waiver and it doesn't just apply to religious beliefs or medical reasons. Any parent can use it. This is a very dangerous precedent . The younger generations have never seen some of the horrible results from these diseases. They don't remember the fear of polio that every parent had back in the day. Sadly, looks like we may have a very rude awakening for some of them. GET YOUR CHILDREN VACCINATED!!!!