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@Trudey wrote:

When I am actively working to lose weight, I eat no more than 20 carbs daily.  However, this does not allow me to have any fruit. 


Similarly, when I needed to lose weight, I aimed for around 50 gm carbs daily and only ate fruit maybe twice during the week.  More importantly, my carbs were eaten at one meal during the day so I didn't have multiple insulin releases during the day.

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I have horrible back problem, bulging discs that sometimes herniate, sciatica. I was at a medical conference recently given by Harvard University and they recommended 1 Tylenol 3 X per day routinely for pain, then if not effective move to tramadol for moderate pain, then the last resort is opiates. I do take the Tylenol like they said and it has helped. I take a 500 mg 3 X per day. Do not take more than 2500 mg of Tylenol per day, anyone should check with their doctor first before doing this. Anyway, I also take Andrew Lessman Omega-3 fish oil, fish oil is an anti-inflammatory. I am happy for your daughter, joining the WW was the best thing that I ever did. They teach you how to eat and face all the foods that we all face daily. Good luck and I hope you can keep your pain under control. 

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Chemically, your body sees "good" sugar as sugar.  It doesn't differentiate as your metabolism doesn't.

 

Be careful, however, you're not supposed to go on a strict low carb diet for more than two weeks because you can do damage to the kidneys.

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@ECBG wrote:

Chemically, your body sees "good" sugar as sugar.  It doesn't differentiate as your metabolism doesn't.

 

Be careful, however, you're not supposed to go on a strict low carb diet for more than two weeks because you can do damage to the kidneys.


@ECBG, that's what I was wondering about the good sugar versus bad sugar.  There is so much information out there it gets confusing.

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All the nutrition advice leaves one with little to eat that hasn't been labeled "bad."  How can you stop eating most carbs?  What is there to eat?  Meat, nuts, eggs, and low-carb vegetables?  Won't you get a terrible nutritional deficiency?  And then you aren't supposed to eat fat, so out goes the meat and egg yolks at least.  It really is just overwhelming.  I'm going to stick to a varied diet and try to eat less bread.

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@ECBG wrote:

Chemically, your body sees "good" sugar as sugar.  It doesn't differentiate as your metabolism doesn't.

 

Be careful, however, you're not supposed to go on a strict low carb diet for more than two weeks because you can do damage to the kidneys.


@ECBG

 

How do you define "strict low carb" diet?   People stay on Atkins, etc for much longer than two weeks with no problems.

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High protein can lead to problems with the Kidney's and low carb can lead to severe constipation. In my previous posts, I wanted to get my point across,that to eliminate foods from one's diet forever is unrealistic because the person will eventually feel deprived of the foods that they love. Today, I went to my Weight Watchers meeting and again the message was to eat that hot dog or hamburger and enjoy the day, just don't make that my everyday food choices. That works for me and I have not felt deprived at all. I eat whole grain bread with nuts and seeds. Sugar is sugar, however the whole grain carbohydrates do not convert to sugar fast like white flour does, so those foods do not contribute to a high sugar load and a fast release of insulin from the pancreas. We need carbohydrates and fats to live. For me, this weekend, I am going to enjoy a hot dog or 2, in a bun with mustard and relish and I will still continue to lose weight, because my hot dogs are going to be a 1 day deal. Oatmeal is a carbohydrate but so loaded with fiber and some protein that it is an excellent food, will fill you up fast and stick with you for hours after eating it. For those of you who low carb it, good luck. I did it, lost a lot of weight and gained all of my weight back.What I eat now is livable for me for the rest of my life and to me that is important. 

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@conlt wrote:

High protein can lead to problems with the Kidney's and low carb can lead to severe constipation. In my previous posts, I wanted to get my point across,that to eliminate foods from one's diet forever is unrealistic because the person will eventually feel deprived of the foods that they love. Today, I went to my Weight Watchers meeting and again the message was to eat that hot dog or hamburger and enjoy the day, just don't make that my everyday food choices. That works for me and I have not felt deprived at all. I eat whole grain bread with nuts and seeds. Sugar is sugar, however the whole grain carbohydrates do not convert to sugar fast like white flour does, so those foods do not contribute to a high sugar load and a fast release of insulin from the pancreas. We need carbohydrates and fats to live. For me, this weekend, I am going to enjoy a hot dog or 2, in a bun with mustard and relish and I will still continue to lose weight, because my hot dogs are going to be a 1 day deal. Oatmeal is a carbohydrate but so loaded with fiber and some protein that it is an excellent food, will fill you up fast and stick with you for hours after eating it. For those of you who low carb it, good luck. I did it, lost a lot of weight and gained all of my weight back.What I eat now is livable for me for the rest of my life and to me that is important. 


Halo:  I tried to find out recently whether there's a difference between the steel-cut oatmeal and the one-minute (not instant) oatmeal.  Have you been given any info on this?  I heard some doctor on TV saying you must have steel-cut, but I don't know if I believe him.  I remember checking the oatmeal box and noticing that both the old-fashioned oatmeal that cooks in 5 minutes and the oatmeal that cooks in 1 minute have exactly the same amount of fiber.  This doctor seemed to be saying that the quicker cooking oatmeal is as bad as sugary foods that have a high glycolic index.  I haven't been able to resolve this and would appreciate any info you or others could provide.  I have oatmeal a lot and want to resolve this.  I would never get the instant kind that cooks if you just add boiling water.

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@Tinkrbl44 wrote:

@ECBG wrote:

Chemically, your body sees "good" sugar as sugar.  It doesn't differentiate as your metabolism doesn't.

 

Be careful, however, you're not supposed to go on a strict low carb diet for more than two weeks because you can do damage to the kidneys.


@ECBG

 

How do you define "strict low carb" diet?   People stay on Atkins, etc for much longer than two weeks with no problems.


@Tinkrbl44

 

How much do you want to lose?

 

Atkins was the first to be really noticed with the "low carb" regime.  People may say they have no problems with that plan but they can't rule out the damage they "may" have done to internal organs since it may not have gotten to the point of a warning symptom.  

 

This diet caused such a stir with the medical and nutritional world that a Senate sub committee looked into what Atkins was telling people to do.  A lot of protein is really hard on the body and at the same time our most expensive sourse of food. Your body has to convert protein into energy when other foods would do it so much easier.

 

There was also a discussion of loss of muscle instead of fat and the body is thrown into ketosis, where your urine has the same reading as a diabetic person, which, in it's self is scarey.   (It is so hard on the body, it also effects your breath.).

I really don't think your doctor will advise you to do Atkins.

 

At this time in our lives, with so many of us on high blood pressure meds and everything else because of what we've inherited, we don't have the level of health we had in our twenties and our bodies don't cope as well.  Many people regain because the plan isn't realistic.

Weight Watchers will show you how to lose almost effortlessly and feel great while doing it, and be less expensive than living on protein.  The weight will stay off.

 You'll have the advantage of all the fresh fruits and vegetables of the summer and get some fantastic recipes.

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Re: Low Carb Diet Question

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@Winkk wrote:

@ECBG wrote:

Chemically, your body sees "good" sugar as sugar.  It doesn't differentiate as your metabolism doesn't.

 

Be careful, however, you're not supposed to go on a strict low carb diet for more than two weeks because you can do damage to the kidneys.


@ECBG, that's what I was wondering about the good sugar versus bad sugar.  There is so much information out there it gets confusing.


@WinkkI know.  I don't know how many of my posts you have read, but  I speak from a double major, one which was chemistry because it complemented my main majoe so well. I taught juniors and seniors for thirty six years.  My love, however is design, but I did a lot of work in chemistry and nutrition.

 

I just left Tinkrbl44 a detailed discussion you may want to read.  I'll be happy to discuss it further with you.

 

How much do you want to lose?